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Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

Started by hartiberlin, April 12, 2006, 10:41:37 PM

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Liberty

Would this idea be of use as a type of monopole rotor?  Multiple magnets could be used on the rotor but would have to be balanced.  Here is a diagram of the monopole rotor.
Liberty

"Converting Magnetic Force Into Motion"
Liberty Permanent Magnet Motor

kukulcangod

Madd here you can find them ,:

http://www.matchrockets.com/ether/halbach.html

Is a great site hopefully somebody would get this going somehow ,because I can't find anymore information about Torbay other than repeated news.

I'll go the saw way water is something I did'nt considered knowing better ,ho well .... Have fun.

Jdo300

Quote from: Liberty on May 05, 2006, 11:39:54 AM
Would this idea be of use as a type of monopole rotor?  Multiple magnets could be used on the rotor but would have to be balanced.  Here is a diagram of the monopole rotor.

Hi Liberty,

That idea may work but you will run into problems with torque since you are using metal instead of magnets directly. The metal plate will only have a fraction of the strength of the original magnet so you may have to experiment to see if it will even work.

God Bless,
Jason O

Jdo300

Quote from: kukulcangod on May 05, 2006, 01:16:36 PM
Madd here you can find them ,:

http://www.matchrockets.com/ether/halbach.html

Is a great site hopefully somebody would get this going somehow ,because I can't find anymore information about Torbay other than repeated news.

I'll go the saw way water is something I did'nt considered knowing better ,ho well .... Have fun.

Hallbach arrays are not a good choice to make a monopole magnet. If you look at the simlations on that website, you can see that though the flux is constrained to one side of the magnet, the actual pole orientations change. That would be very bad for the torbay motor because you will end up building a rotor magnet that both attracts and repels from the stator magnets.

God Bless,
Jason O

Liberty

Quote from: Jdo300 on May 05, 2006, 03:23:07 PM
Quote from: Liberty on May 05, 2006, 11:39:54 AM
Would this idea be of use as a type of monopole rotor?  Multiple magnets could be used on the rotor but would have to be balanced.  Here is a diagram of the monopole rotor.

Hi Liberty,

That idea may work but you will run into problems with torque since you are using metal instead of magnets directly. The metal plate will only have a fraction of the strength of the original magnet so you may have to experiment to see if it will even work.

God Bless,
Jason O

I would agree that torque could be affected, if the rotor magnet is placed too far away from the stators.  But I think if one were to measure the magnetic field of the rotor magnet (with another magnet in repel) that you are using and place it within the "reach" of the magnetic field, it should flow through the steel plate with near the same strength as the magnet itself.  The plate should be of adequate thickness to conduct the magnetic field into the plate and against the stator magnets for torque.  Also the thickness and ability to direct the magnetic field of the rotor compared to the thickness and broad magnetic field of a magnet should allow the stator magnet travel upward to be less while using a steel rotor.  I think that the field stator magnets may add to the repelling strength of the rotor as well while positioned between rotor magnets. 



Jason O, you show in depth thinking with the great insight that you have provided.

Thanks for your insightful thoughts and for listening to some of mine, ;)

Liberty 
Liberty

"Converting Magnetic Force Into Motion"
Liberty Permanent Magnet Motor