Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

[mrd10]

Hi Guys,

I don't want to put a negative on what were doing here, for the time being, I have left this project, as I had issues with top ramp, It seems that the only way this is going to work is if we apply some force, like someone said in earlier post, if we use our hands , fingers that were using energy  to cause rotation, my issue after building the motor was how is he getting this thing to push the lever arms down, without using force to do it.

If you look at Torbays video, he has the bottom bit covered, so it maybe that he is putting us all on, by conceling a battery or something like that, and as he pushes the lever in it activates a switch, anyway guys keep at it, I've gone over to the steven marks section.

You may have success with this and work something out, that i missed. The one thing i hate is bullshit artists who do this, its like bringing our hopes up and then when we findout it MAY not be true, it brings our hopes crashing down. I did this to see if indeed it could work, even if I got slight rotation, again maybe im missing something. Its just that after building this, I realized that it may not work as we still need energy to push levers down.

Cheers,

Dom 

[mrd10]

Bingo guys, I think I have an answer, I don't know how it came to me but it did:- the bottom maybe covered up, because its the rest of the puzzle he isn't showing us.
What if and My guess its easy to do, we put an arm on the lower part with a magnet attached to it, pretty much like i did with the magnet assist at the top, and as the bottom arm reaches the lever, which should be forced down, it helps to force the lever down, and the top disc is just to aid the rotation.

Again the arm will be on the bottom of the device, below the levers, so we need a thin piece of perspex for the bottom.

Cheers,

Dom   

[thevorlon]

I agree that I hope this Motor from Argentina is legitimate. I don't like scammers and hoaxers and especially don't like them when they make false claims about VERY serious issues such and this. This world is in DESPERATE need of clean and abundant energy and for anyone to make false claims (such as saying they have a constantly spinning permanent magnet motor when they really do not) is downright digusting in my opinion.

I'm not saying the Magnet Motor from Argentia is not legitimate. I have not read anything that forces me to make that conclusion. But I'm just simply saying I hope people realize how important this subject is and that they don't make false statements.

Also, I want to say something. Most of these devices I have been reading about for the past few days are indeed rather LARGE! We don't need a large device. We just need a PROOF OF CONCEPT device that moves a rotor. It doesn't have to produce a lot of power or spin super fast. We just need something that consistantly works.

What is the obstacle when it comes to performing these experiments on a smaller scale with smaller magnets that would both be cheaper and also require less of other materials? Personally, I would LOVE IT if we could come up with absolute working plans of a *small* toy sized magnet motor that works, and is so small you can hold it in one hand.

[Craigy]

Hi All

Thevorlon, that is my mission objective, and i think its everyone elses mission objective on this tread. both myself and Mrd are using common or garden bits and bobs that you can get in any hardware store, with magnets off of ebay. A CNC machine would be great, but it will put off all those high school kids and people not so young from copying the machine, if we make a break through the only way to go is to let everyone know, and give the plans to the whole world so that every highschool kid has a little working model of a torbay or equivelent as his or her science project. That way people will wonder why we still use oil..

Anyway back to the thread..MRD don't you dare leave this tread just yet, i got sent an email direct that deserves consideration........
hi,

remember, likes want to get out of each others field.  opposites want to center with each other.  if you have a north field 4' wide and place a south field 1" wide in the north field, the south field will want to face the 2" mark (middle) on the north field.

if you are getting fast rpm by moving only one stator magnet, why not just raise and lower that one?

if that effect is the same with any given stator magnet, you could mount 2 (180 degrees apart) on a seesaw over the rotor and with cam or magnets inside rotor magnets on rotor, raise 1 side while the other lowers.  timing the lowering so it gives you the push (if using repell mode) when you need it, like you do by hand.

i have been working on this idea for awhile (lots of distractions), but hadn't been able to mount my magnets to get the rotation you guys are getting.  hope this turns on some lights.

tom (tbird)

Thanks Tbird..I have tested the concept on my torbay by hand and it works, now i am in the process of knocking up a seesaw to see how far it gets in the real world. I like this idea because there is NO RAMP and we know that stators love to go up and in this idea they will fall down under gravity ( aided a bit, by their connection via seesaw with the raising stator).. I will post a video shortly , explaining the concept and showing you how well it works by hand..

So Mrd don't dump your torbay just yet, i may have to start a tread called TORBAY HYBRID.

Craigy

[thevorlon]

Craigy,

Thanks for your thoughtful post. It's great that it seems everyone here is pretty much together on what our goals should be.

Let me ask you a question. Obviously, I'm new here and I'm new to magnetic motors even though I'm trying to read as much as possible about the subject. Also, I'm trying to read through as much of this forum as possible. But I have a question.

What is the best result anyone has gotten so far who has not simply left the forum to never post again? Does anyone have a permanent magnet motor that actually rotates and keeps rotating even at a slow rate of speed?