Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

[Craigy]

Hi Dani and all,

Thanks for your interest Dani, ( i have a video of the Takahaski principle on you tube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Z1THqv_G4 ) but that looks like a blatant copy of the Takahaski motor, i wonder what he's got the patent on, the digital encoder and timing used?

Anyway we are trying to replicate the torbay motor on this thread and that means we cannot  (unfortunately!) cheat by using an electro magnet.

The torbay works by creating a a gap in the field surrounding the rotor, the rotor moves towards that low field. The trick is getting the rotor to continuosly rotate by continually having the low field 10 -15 degrees in front of the rotor. Torbay used a ramp to push the stators back down but after trying that and getting no-where i have tried to think of other ways of achieving the samething.

Seesaw was the first idea, thus i am trying to use the energy that repells the stators up, to also push them down. i could add a total of 4, 2 on the top and another 2 on the bottom of the motor. Thus all 8 stator magnets would have that help.

Or

2 rotors, one on top of the other with the magnets on the rotor out of phase by 180 degrees one from the other, Thus when a stator is repelled upwards it forms part of the top rotor.

Still trying everything i can think of, but as i am a practical experimenter it takes time to knock the hardware up.

Craig

P.S. I have seen Bags of Magnet ( Neo) granuales on ebay, apparantly you can use them to mould you own magnet??


 

[Dingus Mungus]

Craig, I'm quite pleased to see your impressive video library, and also that you had tried the see saw method. I believe there is great potential in that aproach. If the outer control arms were extended they would act like a lever. The longer the control arms are the less force required to manuver the magnets. The process is nine parts timing and one part finess. I know you'll find something one day, because your miniture replication prototypes are excellent in design. I may contact for some tips when I start work on my mini minota wheel. Good luck till next time.

[Craigy]

Thanks Dingus,

I am experimenting with 2 rotors and a seesaw now, and it looks promising.

I am effectively trying to have 2 torbay rotors working within one ring of 8 stators. Thus the idea is that when the see saw is raised on one side it creates the gap to move the bottom rotor clockwise, and since the other side of the seesaw is down that creates the gap to move the top rotor clockwise. The other 6 stators are arranged so that their fields are equal on both top and bottom rotors.
I could have mounted the rotor magnets on just one rotor with half on one side and the other half of the magnets on the other side which i may yet have to make up. But in the photo i have the 2 180 degree segments on 2 separate rotors. This is ok for the time being and the rotor can be turned manually by raising one stator after another without the rotor getting stuck or finding a sticky spot, even with 5 stators up, lifting the sixth makes the rotor move. I will experiment with having the stators all able to move or 6 fixed to see what happens.

I have run out of 1/4 inch terminal block, and so has my hardware store! so there will be a small delay while i find some more to hold the magnets down on the second rotor which only has 9 magnets on it at present. On the bottom one i have managed to cram in 13 ( rotor dia 12 cm). Magnets are no longer angled to one side. That was only required when i had fewer magnets installed on the rotor.

[shipto]

looks good Craigy I started on mine today. Have the turntable ready and spinning nice and free. Luckily I work in a place that uses a lot of plastic so I can get as much as I need and weld it where needed too. 
pics on blog, below

[barkeroo]

Hi Craig and all the guys trying to crack the Torbay Motor
This is my first post to this forum you guys give me a lot of pleasure reading all the ideas and inovations you come up with to get a system that will finaly give free energy to a needy world.
I was born in the UK but I have been living in South Africa for the last 33 years and if ever there is a need for free energy then africa is defininatly the place that needs it.
Enough of my rambling the reason I am posting to the forum, I work in a machine shop where we use dial guages with a magnetic based stand, I hope you guys are familiar with it. The Base has a switch when that when turned on  sticks to the bed of the lathe with a strong force and when you flick the switch off it has no force at all.
I was thinking maybe you could use somthing like this on your design. I stripped one apart to see how it worked, the magnate is a round bar about 40 mm diameter by 50 mm long one side of the diameter is north and the other side is south and the switch just revolves the round bar to get the effect. If this is not relevent to your work here please forgive my intrusion and keep up the good work.
regards Barkeroo