Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

[CLaNZeR]

Ahh know what you mean now !

Not really thought about the weight to give it momentum, the rotor is fairly heavy with the load of the magnets but will have a play and can easly mill it out of aluminium if it is looking promising. Or for now mount something onto it as such.

Regards

Sean.

I meant the top hat has to be heavy for it to pick up enough momentum to overcome any frictional forces, allowing continuous rotation.

Cheers

[shipto]

I have setup a link at http://www.overunity.org.uk called Other Torbay Replications and populated the page with photos and movie links from the two Torbay threads in these forums.

If I have placed your images up on the site and you do not want them up there, then please let me know and I will remove, just thought it would be nice to collate the pictures from this huge thread into one place.

Thank Gawd for WIFI in hotel rooms!

Regards

Sean.

on the contrary I feel honoured to be included, good work with the page.

[badbod]

I have something suspicous to report. I am in Thailand and the site http://www.icyti.ar.gs/ is being blocked by the Thailand ICT (Ministry of Information and Communications Technolgy) using Torpark I see that there is no porn or gambling or criticism of the government on that site, which are the usual reasons for blocking sites here. Any ideas why this should be, anyone?

Looks like this is a worker,, my 2 cents. I have read a lot of this thread but i didnt see any successful replication,, did i miss this? anyone got any where near?

[Frank]

Hi Everyone!
This is my first time to post on Magnet Motor from Argentina 2
My hoby is electricity and magnetism for many years.
Then I read about W.Torbay Transgenerator.
Many years ago I had idea about (something close to W.T.Transgenerator),
Magnetic motor, powered by ROTATING STATOR.
As with magnets, we know, that whatewer we do with them, they always
tend to find "parking spot" e.a. lockup position, as long as magnets are in stationary
(balanced) position. Torbay did overcome this by introducing unbalance in
magnet`s system. When I look at his motor, I see stator magnets and arms as a ROTOR.
What I see till now, nobody was able to figure sequence of raising and lowering
stator arms to achive continuos rotation. I dont think that is a problem. When I
look at W.T.video, I guess what is hiden in the base. Main rotor have another
plate attached to it and on that plate is another magnet which is lifting stationary
stator arms. You can see magnets on stators lower arms clearly when they
are lifted. Think what we have till now. Stator is constantly creating space which
is immidiately trying to be occupied by leading edge of movable rotor.
Well, problem is how to lower stator arm into approaching rotor`s path. Remember magnet in base? This magnet is key to continuos rotation. It may be mounted down on plate, but may be embeded right into rotor shaft. This choice depend on stator`s arm design. When stator arm is kicked out of ring, slot in rotor cap alow it
to fully raise, whell on top of stator arm  LOCKS into grove for an instant and then forces arm  down in position,with downward slot ONE POSITION before leading edge of rotor. You see, that arm going down is working against weary weak force field of rotor. Trick is, that moment BEFORE arm reaches low position, Next stator arm is  forced up into now open rotor cap slot, whell locks, arm goes down and process continues.Many of you will ask question:"why we lock arm into rotor cap"?
Guess,when arm is kicked up, there is no force to hold it there, arm will
fall down and we do not want this to happen.
As I mentioned, magnet wich lifts arm and downward pressure from rotor cap needs
force. Did you notice from where this force is generated?
Did you notice, when stator arm is forced down, it is LOCKED in down position by
rotor cap and then gradually lifted (pushed) for 3 stator magnets lengths, against
rotor cap, which is gradually sloped UPWARDS. This upward force is helping rotor
to turn smothly. Where is upward force comming from? Yes, from N-N repulsion.
Torbay mentioned N-N configuration, but fields will be much stronger if S-S
configuration is used.
   I hope this post will help many of you who spend countless hours traying to figure out this Torbay motor. Many people were wery close to acheive building W.T.
device especially OMNIBUS and MRD10.
  Go people, this device is so close.
  As for myself, I am building this motor and I will post and share my progress on
this Forum.
   
   God bless
     Frank 

[CLaNZeR]

Hi Frank

I think you actually have a good point there and with this in mind I have just spent sometime looking at the pictures again and keeping what you said in my mind.

In the picture below it does show that indeed the wheels are not touching the lid but are firmly down.


Also in this clip at 1:15 into the movie it shows the arms snapping down, again without them hitting the lid.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6530358947613135242&q=transgenerador

One last thing, also I see now looking at the video a few times in the arms actually seem to end up below the Arc magnet like at timeline 0.44

With my replication, like many others was the force needed to push the magnets back down against the Arc magnet. The lifting was not a problem because the front magnet pushed the arms up.

Now thinking if it was in attraction mode the magnets would snap down, but you would need the power to lift the magnets. But could not see that the attraction of the first magnet coming down would be enough energy to pull the Arc magnet out of the rest of the arms, unless because the arm magnets are lower then this does create a weak spot.

I like the idea of another plate below to pull them down and still use the repulsion mode though.

Look forward to hearing more Frank and welcome to the forums

Regards

Sean.