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Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

Started by hartiberlin, April 12, 2006, 10:41:37 PM

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IronHead

If you are going to layer Mu metal, it seems to work much better with non magnetic gaps between layers. Paper works well for this.

Give it a try

marksmachines

Hi Guys

I have been following this Torbay Magnet motor since the start of the string and love the discussion. 

Y'all have hit on a subject that I am confused on MuMetal.  I understand this metal to be very stronlgy atracted to a magnet, more so than plain iron.  It seems to use it as a shielding would require moving it in and out of a magnetic field, wouldn't that take energy to do?  Is it the presumption the energy to move the shield (MuMetal) in and out of the field will be less than the energy gained from the action and interaction of the motivating magnets.

Thanks

attack duck

Hey MM -  I would love to get into a discussion about behaviour of Mu metals but
unfortunately I am mentally handicapped in that area.  According to the Law of
Conservation of Energy, you can pay me now or pay me later but you still have to pay.  Steorn claims to have found a way using low viscosity magnetic materials (Mumetal?)
and varying insertion speeds on their device to cheat the system and get a rotor magnet inserted without paying too much and then get the full kick out the other side.  This would be a time variant response that is not allowed under COE.  All reactions under COE are supposed to be time invariant according to Noethers theorem.
  Even if their device works, I can't imagine any of their jurists willing to get their
necks chopped by stating that COE is being violated.   I'm guessing they will test for
years looking for any possibilities of fraud or unknown energy sources without coming up with a verdict.

                                          Glenn

CLaNZeR

Quote from: MrMag on February 04, 2007, 04:01:34 PM
Sean,

Nice and clean design. Keep up the good work and good luck!!

Tim

Thanks Tim for the support.

Flew home tonight for the weekend and still no sliders :(
If they are not here tomorrow, will maybe mill out some custom made ones out of plexiglass as can always replace them later with smoother precision bearings as ordered.

Regards

Sean.
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CLaNZeR

Quote from: shipto on February 05, 2007, 04:42:17 PM
looking good people I have done some more work on my own device. Details and pics on my blog, I think I am getting somewhere its going to be  case of fine tuning. The trouble is I dont know if it can still be called a torbay now the orientation is reversed for one thing.

Excellent Shipto, good to see others still working on it.

Can you explain the reverse angle you have gone for?


Regards

Sean.
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