Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

[mark australia]

dear slucas,
I think the hummingbird and sundance is a huge crock of rubbish. Have a good read...full of conspiracy theroy.
I was wondering how all the Torbay prototype builders were going....seems to have gone quiet...has anyone heard from anyone in Argentina recently???
Kind regards Mark

[Mi]

I think the hummingbird and sundance is a huge crock of rubbish. Have a good read...full of conspiracy theroy.

Video is childish, but perfectly ok. Same ideas like with all of us here in the forum. Regardless of conspiracy theories.
http://www.befreetech.com/media/case.ram

[orionjf]

After some tests in the first (rough) prototype I guest there are two ways to start a cycle: lifting a stator or pushing down a stator (although both actions will be done, only one is the main drive in a initial status and its synchronism will determine all future actions, I guest. Consider the initial action as the initial change from a stable status that causes a cycle that doesn?t stop). The first (lifting a stator) is very well shown in Nastrand2000 video and it looks like the method of original Torbay patent. I found some difficulties to implement it (cover tap mechanic fine adjustment and small friction mechanism for instance) and the initial torque is small (and it needs a small force to create it because both variables are linked). The second one generates a large torque and it does not require a special mechanic care but requires a large and synchronized force for pushing down (Nastrand, try to hold the rotor just a little bit after the last lifted stator and push down it and then release the rotor. You will see a strong torque that ?passes? the next expected start point cycle, probably doing a completed turn. This energy excess to complete the cycle could be adjusted to force the next cycle).
In other words, there could be two models: a ?permanent? (or near to DC) torque status (I don?t think so but any experiment or simulations are welcome) or cycles of torque that have parameters fixed by the initial status and the first imbalance.
Then, my second prototype will be oriented to measure both status without some elements (cover tap for instance) using other controlled methods for pushing and lifting. I expect some results in a week.
Regards

[hartiberlin]

Hi All,
here are 2 new pictures I received from someone I know, who knows
Torbay.
Here you can see the underside of the rotor and the second pic shows
the total view of his first prototype with the big plexiglas gear wheel and
the small generator at the backside with a small gear wheel, so
the rotor only rotates at 60 to 100 rpm I was told and this is
upconverted to faster speed at the generator.

More news to come soon....

Regards, Stefan.

[Liberty]

Nice pictures.  Looks pretty basic.  With 60 RPM, how much torque would it need to turn a 1930 watt alternator load?  Quite a bit I would think...