Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

[hartiberlin]

Torbay had a meeting with some people from Bronx university in New York about 3 weeks ago,
from this meeting were also the 2 pics I posted.
The problem was, that all was very bad organized and one guy from our forum just was lucky to
catch and meet Torbay.
Unfortunately Torbay did not have his own motor with him,
but only a replication was shown from someone in the USA and
he had the wrong magnets used, so this motor did not run...

Why Torbay did not bring his own motor with him is not known
until now to me... maybe politics or fear for the motor being stolen ??

The guy who met him emailed me, that the new meeting was supposed
to be last week, but he has not emailed back since then, so I don?t know, what
is going on in this moment..

Regards, Stefan.

[kukulcangod]

Thank you for keeping us posted Stefan, Magnets wrong ? how bad he could've set them up? , well hopefully we will get it right, bye

[jbh]

...only a replication was shown from someone in the USA and
he had the wrong magnets used, so this motor did not run...

Why Torbay did not bring his own motor with him is not known
until now to me... maybe politics or fear for the motor being stolen ??

politics??

fear for the motor being stolen? he applied for a patent, why should he care if the motor is stolen, besides someone finding something that should not be there...  it makes me wonder why the replication from someone did not work...

[Cisco]

Torbay had a meeting with some people from Bronx university in New York about 3 weeks ago,
from this meeting were also the 2 pics I posted.
The problem was, that all was very bad organized and one guy from our forum just was lucky to
catch and meet Torbay.
Unfortunately Torbay did not have his own motor with him,
but only a replication was shown from someone in the USA and
he had the wrong magnets used, so this motor did not run...

Why Torbay did not bring his own motor with him is not known
until now to me... maybe politics or fear for the motor being stolen ??

The guy who met him emailed me, that the new meeting was supposed
to be last week, but he has not emailed back since then, so I don?t know, what
is going on in this moment..

Regards, Stefan.

Regarding these latest disclosures about Torbay coming to Bronx University, I have a few questions and observations which I hope won't be taken as unduly suspicious.
First, why has the person who met him there been reluctant to post the news directly on this forum, so that we may explore more exactly and directly what he learned there?
Concerning the 2 pics Stefan posted on April 23 from that meeting in New York:
We are told that "Unfortunately Torbay did not have his own motor with him,
but only a replication was shown from someone in the USA and he had the wrong magnets used, so this motor did not run..." The motor shown in those two pictures bears an uncanny and very close resemblance to Torbay's own motor pictured in one of Stefan's previous posts over a month earlier on March 21 (Magnet Motor from Argentina, part 1, page 11). There are slight differences: the base is deeper on the earlier pictures, and the bottoms of the vertical side support straps are exposed. Other than that, the plexiglass model is virtually the same, including the large plastic gear on top driving the small generator off to one side.
It seems unlikely if not inconsistent that the North American who allegedly built the non-functioning replication would be so exacting in most respects of design, yet fail in the most critical areas: magnetic components and performance.
After close examination of the two sets of pictures, I question whether they are not in fact of the same model. But, we are told, "Torbay did not have his own motor with him."
If all the pictures are of the same model, then the reports don't add up.
Where is Luis when we need him?
"New meeting"?  Is Torbay still in New York? 
Why does he pander to the Bronx, yet remain so elusive with us?
Cisco

[hartiberlin]

Well, you are right, the prototype Torbay had in his hand looks exactly
like the one he had at his home and I also really wonder, what is going on there.
As I have not reached and he is not responding to emails anymore, the member
"Omnibus" from our forum, who was the one meeting Torbay at Bronx university,
he told me, that it was not Torbay?s motor, but he wanted not to go into details.
He had recorded a 2 hours long tape with Torbay, as he met him there,
but I don?t know further details...
Too bad, that Omnibus is not answering anymore...