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Radus boots = permanent magnet on/off switch?

Started by Blainiac, July 07, 2010, 03:55:52 AM

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gyulasun

Quote from: Blainiac on July 20, 2010, 05:53:43 AM
I just drew this after thinking a lot about an easy way to do this and then read your comment.  Something like this?  If you constantly pulse current or have AC in the small switch coils, it could drive the main pickup coils on the side?

Yes, it could drive the main pickup coils.  The problem is that nobody achieved overunity with that setup...
If you take the magnet out from the middle, what are you left with? A conventional transformer that of course works. You surely ask: why should you take the magnet out?
Well the answer is given by several MEG builders failure in getting overunity with the magnet in place... They tried with METGLAS core too, like Naudin.
From about 2001 to 2007, the yahoo MEG_builders group built several MEG setups, none of them gave overunity.  Several theories, including Aharonov-Bohr effect, amorf cores etc were addressed, all failed in practice.

If you are familiar with the B-H hysteresis curves of iron cores, then think it over, what happens if you insert a magnet into the middle of a closed core? 
I think all what happens is that the magnet biases the core in one direction towards the saturation edges of the curve, depending on the poles orientation and the strength of the magnet. A weaker magnet shifts the B=0 and H=0 point only a little away, with no or little saturation effect, a  stronger magnet shifts the zero B-H point closer to the saturation curve, with strong Neos even very near to or into full saturation (depending on the core qualities of course).

The flux coming from the small pulse coils will work against or will work for this shifted and static bias point if you agree.  In case of a DC pulse it will shift always in one direction, (depending on the pulse polarity), creating either less saturation or more, and in case of an AC input the statically biased core will either go closer to saturation or further away from saturation as the positive and negative halfwaves dictate.

Compare the above operation description (what I believe as correct) to a conventional transformer operation: there is no static magnetic bias and the input AC current can work on the full B-H curve of the core, both on its upper and lower half (i.e. at B=positive and B=negative values), giving a decent conventional efficiency from at least 90 to 96% in most of the cases.
When you insert a magnet, you actually restrict the B-H curve operating range...  In this setup the addition of the permanent magnet and the input coils fluxes simply cannot take place beneficially, to reach overunity...

Elsewhere in this forum the so called Bulgarian MEG was discussed which works a bit differently: the input coils drive the core into saturation on purpose and the flux from the permanent magnet 'sees' high reluctance so that it is 'forced' to seek for a different path, preferably towards the output coils...   measured COP of 2 or 3 is achived (search this forum 'bulgarian meg').

Here is a link to the yahoo megbuilders group

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MEG_builders/

and here is a replication with measurements in 7 parts:

http://www.conspirovniscience.com/meg/expe2005.php  this is in French, use google translate to convert it into English if you need it.

rgds, Gyula