The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

[markdansie]

@Paul
you hit the nail on the head. It would be usefull to replicate the original experiment and coil winding as per what worked before. This is a great starting point.
However if using the lamp eqipment works that may be a great starting point as well.
I have the parts (well have to wind the coil yet) and am waiting to see what circut I need before progressing any further.
I do have some original documents Chris Hunter had forwared to me some time ago but will check with him if it is ok to pass it on.
Mark

[oswaldonfire]

I believe the best way to test oswaldonfires´ information is to simply express high frequency pulsed
EM fields into an open container of saturated NAOH, and watching the whole thing from a safe distance.

This is an excellent way to go about it. 

No need for any exact simulations here or taking energy efficiency into consideration at this stage,
since the very concept of getting the ions in the solution to act as alternating cathodes/anodes is
what has to be tested.

Thank you!!

For now, the first priority is just getting bubbles. Then we can work out solutions to other things.

Gwandau, excellent information.

MarkSCoffman, you are right.

Good stuff, niofox.

Goat, I moved from my original circuit because I wanted to try something that was engineered to produce a stronger magnetic flux. As someone pointed out - the original coil was not terribly strong. It was simply an idea that I had, and I wanted to test it out. It may or may not work better - but that is how things are discovered and progress is made.

I talked to Alaska, and he is trying to locate the pictures that he posted. If he can dig them up again, I will post them here.

I am also surprised that there is so little attention being paid to StihlWoody's replication. I mean, he is the first one to post pictures of a real replication, and all he is waiting to do is plug it in and look for some results. Maybe we could get some feedback and conversation happening about his replication.. although it is good that you are all concentrating on your own.

Anyway, just trying to provide more fuel for this thread.

Good luck

Oswaldonfire

[Goat]

@ markdansie & oswaldonfire

Thank you both for your comments.

I'll wait for further information on the circuit(s) info before proceeding.

Regards,
Paul

[LtBolo]

I am also surprised that there is so little attention being paid to StihlWoody's replication.

Anyone who has hung around this and other similar forums is well versed in the many ways that these 'simple' experiments universally fail to produce meaningful results. Show something...anything...that demonstrates the effect you describe and this thread will be 100 pages long in a matter of days, with 25 independent replications.

So far what we have heard is a nice theory that violates accepted conservation laws. I personally would invest considerable resources if you or anyone else could show a video of the effect...but not until then.

[Goat]

Anyone who has hung around this and other similar forums is well versed in the many ways that these 'simple' experiments universally fail to produce meaningful results. Show something...anything...that demonstrates the effect you describe and this thread will be 100 pages long in a matter of days, with 25 independent replications.

So far what we have heard is a nice theory that violates accepted conservation laws. I personally would invest considerable resources if you or anyone else could show a video of the effect...but not until then.

@ LtBolo

I agree with you and this is why in my previous post I mentioned "replicate" and without all the information it's impossible to replicate an experiment without all the information of the original experiment that worked!

So I guess we just have to be patient and hope that all the information that was used in the original experiment that worked comes to us from the inventor or anyone that has tried this method and had success with it and is described in detail, circuit(s) and all.

So I'm taking the wait and see method.  It's not that it's a complicated experiment, it's only a matter of time before all information from the original experiment is detailed and then it's just a matter of replication.

Time will tell, we just have to be patient.

Added:  See me as Vulture # 2 getting impatient...LOL

Regards,
Paul