The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

[mscoffman]

Here's what I just cobbled together in TinyCAD
I know there's many things wrong with it, but not sure what           

The symbols for the SigGen and Ground are different since I couldn't find anything more adequate in the toolbox provided

The "Load?" part I wasn't sure if that should be there, or what should be there exactly, so I just threw in a neon symbol

The values for the solenoids I haven't planned out properly yet and are subject to change based on feedback

So, the question is, am I doing complete nonsense here?  Or do I have the general idea but got things all wrong on the circuit layout?

@niofox,

My recomendations for changes to your schematic;
I looked up your transistor it is bipolar NPN with a b=beta amplification
between 25 and 75 times. (It's NPN power transistor with intermediate gain)

a) Loose the load symbol, replace it with a wire.

b) The battery needs to be reversed as a NPN transistor collector is (+).

c) now interchange the battery symbol and the inductor.

d) now all batteries (-) are grounded and you can supply the +12volts
all from the same source if you want.

d) signal generators signals usually go (+)peak to (-)peak ac voltage
you want yours to stop at or go slightly below 0V Gnd. for Ne555 this is
ok because the signal goes from 0V to +5V. but a lab signal generator
is going to require a series capacitor (for DC blocking) then a diode
to keep the signal from going very far below ground. This will boost the top
of the signal up in voltage. A 1uf cap and a 1n4148 diode will work,
it will still work with an NE555.

e) you should measue the resistance of the 800 turn coil with an
DVM ohmeter then multiply that resistance by beta of 25 so that
it takes 25 times less power to drive the base then it takes to
drive the coil. Then multiply that resitance times 12/5  (or 12/10)
which is the ratio of collector voltage to base drive voltage. Put the
resistor of that value or near it in series with each base. That will
take unecceassry load off the signal generator and provide only
the signal required to drive the load.

Because of the low beta of these transistors, significant signal
drive capability will be required in the Signal Generator. This may be
better handled by one additional buffer transistor feeding the other
three bases.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[StihlWoody]

I personally don't buy the 'nobody would believe it works, thus could not get the funding or the backing to make it happen beyond a pilot plant.' It is dang near impossible to get successful folk to part with money without something demonstrable. They didn't become successful by being gullible or stupid. Neither did they become successful by passing on good opportunities.

Did you see the DVD?

I guess that's more than sufficient proof, and yet...where is it?

Probably sitting in the corner, collecting dust in Alaska.

I guess reality is a hard commodity to come by, more valuable than platinum eh?

StihlWoody

[ramset]

Wow,
Chris returned my phone call!

This fella is going places!!

Good places!!

He's ridiculously busy with his new ventures,which should keep him occupied for  several more life times!
Haven't looked yet but Arctictek.com is the address .

He did this Boys [magnetrolysis]!

I believe him to be a bit of a "Savant" when it comes to these things!,

                           " Gifted"

This most recent endeavor is his baby,
I believe he won't be able to resist getting involved to some degree when we start posting our experiments.

I plan on making bubbles!

Chris your one cool Dude!

Chet

PS
I believe it would be a VERY good idea to experiment with this!!


Hi frequency
Big Gauss

PPS
Stihl woody,
Hows your bubble bath going?
Any "SUDS" yet??

[LtBolo]

Did you see the DVD?

I guess that's more than sufficient proof, and yet...where is it?

Does the DVD demonstrate magnetolysis? If so, I'd love to see it.

[StihlWoody]

Ltbolo wrote:

Does the DVD demonstrate magnetolysis? If so, I'd love to see it.

Obviously I can see where AlaskaStar got a bit frustrated...

Since you didn't bother to read the 1st time, I will copy and paste it for you, by quoting AlaskaStar:

Now, that being said: what about my Hydrogen DVD?  You know...the one with my car running on hydrogen...yeah. The one that I paid an average of $6.95 apiece to make copies of, and mail with tracking numbers to literally thousands of people...and never got reimbursed for a single disc.  Should I repeat the same process?  I stopped making those DVD discs, and I stopped replying to emails requesting that disc because I found a world full of liars who are self serving and want everything in life handed to them for free without ever doing anything for it.

Such a process, as simple as it was, by dumping galvanized nails into battery acid, produces so much hydrogen in quantities sufficient to run a 1.6L 4 stroke gas engine in but a few moments of production time was able to run a full automobile for several minutes.

How impossible it was, that after it was all revealed, in all it's simplicity, that it was proven beyond all shadow of a doubt...the thread died. People stopped trying, their minds went back to sleep, time to change the channel.  If one were wise...they would look and find that recyclers do not accept galvanized steel, and there are no plants out there that specialize in de-galvanization of steel.  Maybe it's a 2-fold business opportunity
that can take care of battery acid, galvanized steel, and make fertilizer and hydrogen fuel for pennies on the dollar compared to gasoline.  Non-electrolysis, cleans up 2 waste streams, and makes clean fuel and wonderful pure fertilizer.  Too bad people can't think that far ahead.  I would jump at the chance to set up a full scale plant like that.  I would tell 1/2 the planet to kiss my ass for the opportunity to build a plant for doing that.  Alas...the lack of funds takes hold and I continue to work.

So, quite obviously NO.  It does NOT show the magnetolysis process, it shows a different process. 

I think I am going to observe that it is people who don't take time to read, would rather make noise who cause the BS that occurred over at OUPOWER.COM. 

In my humble opinion, Chet asks AlaskaStar to come join this group.  He reads this, and sees shit like this, I am willing to drop a $1 bet that he won't join unless we clean up our act.

We all have the same goal:  to make the world a better place.

Why would you take it upon yourself to be a disturbance to this process? 

It makes you no better than the oil companies.

I have a suggestion, which might get me kicked off this forum:

Shove your keyboard up your ass, walk out to the shop, get busy like some people have and prove it for yourself.

You don't want to spend the money or the time trying?

Too bad.  Have a big cup of shut-the-fuck-up then and sit back and watch other people possibly succeed.

Your attitude sucks, plain and simple.  I can already see tears flowing because someone didn't hand you something that you so want.  Sorry fella, but we don't have it, and that's why we are here discussing it- so that we can have it, however many tries or variations it takes to get it.

StihlWoody