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The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

Started by oswaldonfire, July 20, 2010, 11:30:31 AM

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oswaldonfire

As far as I know, there are no videos or anything of this process. Everyone (including me) who has gotten this process has kept it to themselves, until now.

Do you mean "Where to start??" on the replication, or explaining how this works?

You should have enough info to begin a replication by now... if not, say something.

As for explaining how it works:

-Are you familiar with the principles of magnetic induction?

-Are you familiar with how transformers work?

-Are you familiar with what happens at each electrode in conventional electrolysis? (the chemical reactions)

-Are you familiar with redox reactions?

If the answer is NO to any of these, then you know what to research. Once you have a complete understanding of all of those items, the realization of exactly what is going on should set in. You simply have to look at it a different way.




JamesThomas

I noticed in the light article that a ferrite material around the glass is used to wrap the copper coils around "which causes a very strong magnetic force". It looked from the other thread like folks were just wrapping wire around the glass or perhaps an insulating material to keep heat away from the glass. Which may make for a lesser force.

The same light bulb article mentions how an induction lamp works as a 'transformer", with the coils being the primary and enclosed mercury metal acting like the secondary. Only in our case the sodium metal is acting as a secondary which explains how the transfer of electric energy happens. An energy which must excite the h20 molecules enough to make them separate into there basic O and H.
We are not what we believe ourselves to be.

oswaldonfire

James, first off let me congratulate you. That is EXACTLY what is happening in our setup, as far as the transfer of energy goes.

Now the only thing left to figure out is the chemical process of splitting the water. For example - why are we using sodium? Why not aluminum or another metal?

But most importantly - HOW THE HELL DOES THE SODIUM SPLIT THE WATER SO EFFICIENTLY?!

The answer is a series of three (3) redox reactions, all of them catalyzed by the magnetic field causing the movement of electrons.

This is the last big hurdle to understand.

I suggest you look at what happens at each electrode in conventional electrolysis, since this is just basically normal electrolysis scaled down and with a different metal. You can then apply that to what we have here.

Specifically - what goes on as far as the transfer of electrons at each electrode?

Keep in mind that we don't have 2 dedicated + and - electrodes. Any sodium atom could act as either one at any given time, depending on which part of the cycle it is in.

JamesThomas

Want to thank you Osy for making us think.

I felt from the beginning this was the same dynamics that happen on a macro level, scaled down to a micro atomic level. That said, I now realize I don't know what's happening at a macro level. So I'm having to read a lot in hopes of getting a basic grasp. Thank gawd, learning is fun and stimulates the brains production of opiate like substances.
We are not what we believe ourselves to be.

oswaldonfire

Now that's what we need to see! Thank you for taking the initiative to try to understand this further.

As I said before, look into the details of electron transfer at the electrodes, substitiute Sodium into the reactions, and then balance the redox equations.

That's how I figured it out. It may also be helpful to have information about sodium's atomic structure (valence levels, etc) and a standard electrode potentials chart in front of you.