Ronald Classen's H2O Motor Project

[h2o2go]

OOPs!
I responded hastily and guess my fingers were not working with my brain -- my previous response should have read closed loop
Sorry
Dave

[rlm555339]

Here is a photo of the homemade carburetor setup. 

Latest progress report is:  The motor will run on the 2H2/O2 alone.

Problem:  I can't produce enough fuel to meet the motor demand.  Have to let pressure build up in reactor before starting.  Motor will run until pressure (fuel) is used up and will run very well.

The plain air adjustment setting you see in the second photo is the one which provides the correct hydroxy-to-air ratio.  (three 1/8" holes)

[rlm555339]

I forgot to also mention that the timing was changed to 15 degrees ATDC.  The exhaust sounds are not the sharp retorts you are used to hearing when gasoline is used as fuel.  The exhaust with 2H2/O2 is much softer and I fear the engine power will be much less also.  Haven't tried to run anything with it yet but it just sounds that way.

I'm still trying to figure out a way to make enough fuel.   

[KSW]

Dave

I found this forum i was reading earlier, he says he managed to produce 2litres in 2 minutes, (enough to maybe run a v8 he says).
http://forums.cjb.net/hpnow-about2.html

There are also thoughts about incorporating this with high frequency electrolysis to increase production rates further.

Also on the watercar yahoo group there is something about using a bubbler (they could do with sorting the information out to create a single file with all the information needed as its a bit spread out and hard to find any useful info), and i think what they say is that by allowing to h2 /O2 to bubble through the water, it traps some moisture and so when the mixture ignites it also turns the moisture to steam helping to increase the pressure. They say it also helps cool the process down.

You say you have to let pressure build up in the reactor. How much 2H2/O2 is stored in this? And how long does the engine run for on this stored fuel?
Just to get a rough idea of the rate of production (litres/min ?) which needs to be attained.

Kane

[rlm555339]

There is no evidence that frequency can electrolyze any faster than direct current.  There's a lot of talk about it, and a lot of ideas, but I have found no verification anywahere that it performs better.

The reason the gas is bubbled through water is two fold.  One is to keep a flashback from going back into the reactor.  The other reason is to dry the gas.  After the reactor gets hot, there is a lot of moisture in with the hydroxy and running the bubbles through water condenses that moisture and it tends to stay in the bottle of water.

I am making hydroxy at a rate of about a liter a minute (a little less than a one liter pop bottle) with 300 sq in. of aluma-ti cathode/anode @ 24 vdc in plain tap water.  It is not enough to make this engine run.  This little engine requires 6.28 cu in. per stroke.  Multiply this times 1800 rpm and you get 11,304 cu. in. per minute that is sucked through the motor.  It'll empty the small amount of pressure in the vessel pretty quick.  Longest I've ever run it is about 5 seconds at one time but it runs very well when gets enough fuel.  Making enough hydrogen/oxygen to run even this tiny engine is going to be a challenge.  I can't imagine trying to supply a V-8.  There must be a secret I am not aware of.  Wish I was........I'm open to ideas, folks.  The setup is all here and all that needs to be done is make it function within the capability of the materials I have available for production.  Those facts are in the first post.

If you look at pic 8 in the forums website you cited, you will see the condition of the water.  My water does not look like this even after hours of running.  It stays clear with only a tiny amount of red material (rust?) in it at the bottom.  I attribute this to what is already in the tap water as my electrodes do not deteriorate in any way.  A 16 quart container such as I am using goes a LONG way.  Water level does not go down even after hours of fun.