Ronald Classen's H2O Motor Project

[h2o2go]

Stefan
Some detail to the 2 coil set up I discussed above - I had spark gaps to control the HV. One fired at about 500V the other at 10KV. As I mentioned these rode on the DC circuit. The coils fired at 1KHz.? I observed a slight increase in output after about 10 minutes.? I also observed an increase in heat over running the reactor the same time period without the spikes.?
Could I be fumbling around in the same area you are discussing ?
I concluded that the coils were pulling about 12 Amps - if I increased the Amperage on the cell 12 Amps I would get more results, plus I had safety concerns
Maybe I backed off too soon?

Dave

[kenbo0422]

Could it be a bit of a shortcut to use a sawtooth pattern instead of steps to simulate the same effect and possibly simplify the circuit?

[hartiberlin]

Hi All,
you could use such a pulse form to effectively split water:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/free-energy/files/OssieStuff/battery_charging_effect.jpg
Every pulse must be higher than the previous and if you use graphite electrodes you could
also regain some of the used energy, cause both electrodes will act like
a bettery in the pauses, so you can collect energy back from them.
This is, because they store the ions in their meshes and generate about 2.5 Volts
difference voltage when you use a good electrolyte.
So inside the pulse pauses you can use the cell to recharge a big capacitor and
use this "recycled" energy also for the next pulse with it.

Regards, Stefan.

[rlm555339]

I was referred to this patent by a person on egaspower group

http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=US006126794&PageNum=1&&IDKey=785F51E0C55E&HomeUrl=http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1%2526Sect2=HITOFF%2526d=PALL%2526p=1%2526u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm%2526r=1%2526f=G%2526l=50%2526s1=6126794.WKU.%2526OS=PN/6126794%2526RS=PN/6126794

It uses a combination of pulses to get two different forms of hydrogen.  Anyone understand the chemi-terminology in this document?

It's an interesting approach.  Some of which I think I already accidently have going for me.  Like the pressure self-building part.......I can do that just pretty fast in my little setup.  I know I can reach 5 pounds before 5 minutes.  The patent says at least 1 pound a minute from tap water.  It also speaks of frequencies.  I'm using direct current but if you think about it, it's rectified so there are essentially "pulses" there. 

1800 rpm x 10 magnets = 18,000 rectified pulses
18,000 x 9 coils = 162,000 rectified pulses per second.

But I don't have the second low coil and frequency.

I'm currently trying to figure out what's going on that makes it so special but I don't understand the types of hydrogen mentioned in the documentation.

[rlm555339]

I just timed it.  The water was a little warm from previous attempts earlier today.

With the water temp at 100 degrees, I went from 0 to 5 pounds pressure in 2 minutes - 30 seconds in a 16 quart vessel using 24 VDC rectified current from the generator you see in the photo (very first picture in this thread).

So..........I'm doing twice as much as it says is minimum in the patent.  (I'm starting to attribute most of my problems to carburetor, I think)