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Finalizing Ed Gray's System Build

Started by geotron, August 09, 2010, 09:38:43 PM

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Zarko

There's been quite a bit of discussion about Gray's motor operating in resonance.  But this concept of high frequency oscillations is in conflict with Edwin's statement that the magnetic field is oriented 360 degrees.  Even John Bedini shows the North pole field on the side of the coil, rather than one end.  This kind of field can only be produced by unidirectional positive pulses.

@Gustav: If Gray used a vacuum tube for his diode, my question is if this can act as a zener?

pese

Quote from: Zarko on September 17, 2010, 01:37:38 PM
There's been quite a bit of discussion about Gray's motor operating in resonance.  But this concept of high frequency oscillations is in conflict with Edwin's statement that the magnetic field is oriented 360 degrees.  Even John Bedini shows the North pole field on the side of the coil, rather than one end.  This kind of field can only be produced by unidirectional positive pulses.

@Gustav: If Gray used a vacuum tube for his diode, my question is if this can act as a zener?
Tube can have an avalanche effect , in the region of
maximim breckdown limits.

also gas filled  aswell mercury-vapor filed diodes , even tyratron (like tyrisors or scr) , hae this
effect.

This info will help you

ustav
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Zarko

Quote from: pese on September 17, 2010, 02:03:45 PM
Tube can have an avalanche effect , in the region of
maximim breckdown limits.

also gas filled  aswell mercury-vapor filed diodes , even tyratron (like tyrisors or scr) , hae this
effect.

This info will help you

ustav
I agree there can be an avalanche effect - inside the motor itself as the static is stretched across the plastic.  An avalanche here would increase the "recovery" energy.  Any electron cascade within the Tube would require electrons to be emitted from the positive rod.

Here's what Edwin says (Patent #4661747, coulmn 3, lines 54 to 58}:
QuoteIn this invention, a high-voltage, high-current, short duration energy pulse is applied to the inductive load by the conversion element.  This element makes possible the use of certain of that energy impressed within an arc across a spark gap

The certain energy he's talking about is the static from the capacitor, as this energy expands around the arc to touch the end of the grid.  Shorting the grid to the HV anode.

Also (column 4, lines 39 to 41):
QuoteThe energy content of the high energy pulse is electrostatically coupled to the conversion grids 34 of the conversion element.

The energy of the pulse is connected to the grid through the electrostatic sheath around the spark.  This energy is stored on the grid momentarily, then transferred to the load.  The amount of energy in the pulse depends on how long the grid is shorted to the rod, before the vacuum tube switch is turned off.  Seems simple enough to me.

forest

Inside Gay tube was inert gas, probably Argon.The normalize and spread effect because inert gas is a good conductor of radiant energy.