Late Harvest Moon

[fritznien]

actually bill as much fun as it is to argue with them its for all the lurkers that we correct nonsense.
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[Atlastired]

Ok lets do it easy for the slow learners.

The 23.3 is the mesurment related to the Sun elevation at the Soltices.
NOT THE AXIS OF ROTATION like the mindless parrot posted earlier.

The 23.3 is related to the elyptic amplitude/angle, a change in the elyptic will affect the Sun elevation
WITHOUT AFFECTING AXIS OF ROTATION (North star)
(Thats why you have now the Magnetic north Pole racing upwards towards Russia)

The intellectually challenge might have difficulties understanding that you cant measure the Earth Tilt in relation to the SUN outside of the Soltices, because this is an observational number based on the soltices position.

So the clown who measured it last month probably is another of the "paid per line" internet troll

Gravityblock you studied this for sometime now you said? Drop it you are humiliating yourself.

For those who can think for themselves: http://www.orbitsimulator.com/gravity/articles/kozai.html

[TechStuf]

TechStuff has been promoting this idea of a change in the earth's axial tilt for quite some time now (this is nothing new).  I have already researched his claims way before now, and the conclusion is the claims are erroneous and unfounded.

The Sun now rises and sets well north of it's former position in summer:  Established with photographic evidence from several independent sources.  Mysterious tides, increased earthquakes in population centers, tsunami, rogue waves, rough seas....ALL established by independent news sources.  The moon is way off as well....established by photographic evidence.

Whether one chooses to believe the evidence, or make personal verification is up to each individual.

Some ostriches have their heads buried and all they wish to do is argue about the exact depth of sand over them......

That, in essence, is what is really going on here.

I propose that the naysayers start their own thread in support of their own evidence and see how it holds up for them.



Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ

[fritznien]

Ok lets do it easy for the slow learners.

The 23.3 is the mesurment related to the Sun elevation at the Soltices.
NOT THE AXIS OF ROTATION like the mindless parrot posted earlier.

The 23.3 is related to the elyptic amplitude/angle, a change in the elyptic will affect the Sun elevation
WITHOUT AFFECTING AXIS OF ROTATION (North star)
(Thats why you have now the Magnetic north Pole racing upwards towards Russia)

The intellectually challenge might have difficulties understanding that you cant measure the Earth Tilt in relation to the SUN outside of the Soltices, because this is an observational number based on the soltices position.

So the clown who measured it last month probably is another of the "paid per line" internet troll

Gravityblock you studied this for sometime now you said? Drop it you are humiliating yourself.

For those who can think for themselves: http://www.orbitsimulator.com/gravity/articles/kozai.html

the clown corrected for the time of year just like navigators corrected for the last 500 years when calculating lattitude.
knowing how the seasons affect the suns apparant position you can calulate lattude any day of the year or reverse the process
and calculate any change in axial tilt.
did you measure it on the Soltice what are your results?
are you saying the earths orbit has changed but its axis of rotation has stayed the same?
buy the way the magnetic pole has little to do with the axis of rotation.
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[TechStuf]

The 23.3 is related to the elyptic amplitude/angle, a change in the elyptic will affect the Sun elevation
WITHOUT AFFECTING AXIS OF ROTATION (North star)
(Thats why you have now the Magnetic north Pole racing upwards towards Russia)

I agree with this statement, Atlastired, the ecliptic plane seems to have changed.  If we reach another summer, as I have stated before, judging by what was witnessed last summer, it is possible that we (at least those of us at 41 degrees N latitude), could witness the sun never completely set for a month or so near the beginning of Summer, making the sun visible 24/7!

This seems quite possibly related to a change in the eliptic plane.  Our planet appears to dip below the former ecliptic plane at summer and rise above it in winter.

Notice how the naysayers don't touch the mountain of supporting evidence, but only focus on "establishment data" which many people have found "less than trust worthy." 

The documentary movie, "Expelled - Intelligence not allowed" comes to mind.

Since when did lying to one's self and others become such a 'noble' art?  Pretty far back, actually.

I'd much rather be a sincere 'layman' and try to apprise my fellow man of very real heaven and earth changes and be off on a few details, details which sometimes change with each passing month....

Than be a 'professional' liar for hire (subject to TPTB's approval, of course)

At any rate, all will be revealed soon enough, and it will be too soon according to too many.  Make yourselves ready, dear readers, get right with your Creator.  There is a point, fast approaching, when He will cease contending for the souls of earthling humankind.


Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ