Late Harvest Moon

[TechStuf]

It would have resulted in a global outcry of a magnitude that would make
any attempts to cover this up by proffesional astronomers totally impossible.

Perhaps you might consider applying that assumption to a good many other historical realities that have had many a mouth snapped shut in fear and disbelief.

But individual reports have no scientific validity since you have to be able to employ a repeatable scientifical method of measurement to really prove anything, and there is no such thing presented in this thread.

Neither do many an eye-witness testimony in a court of law, yet the world seems to have no difficulty establishing Truth based upon corroborating accounts of credible witnesses.  You see, to those I am trying to reach with my "evidence", these testimonies matter.  Besides, it's not like I haven't already supplied meaningful data to those that choose to make use of it.  Gwandau, contrary to what you want, need, or expect of me...I am not here to play "scientist" to you or anyone else.  If what I have posted proves insufficient for you or anyone else, and the next steps one wishes to take, are the few over to the couch to click on the 'telly' and forget this mess....so be it.  If however, as some are doing, those steps involve applying simple comparative science to ascertain the validity of these things for themselves....such is certainly welcome.

but since you already have made up your mind and everyone that questions
your view of the situation are ridiculed, communication ceases.

I stand by my statements.  Those who wish to discuss these events in a civil manner are welcomed, but as anyone who wishes to go back and check the record for themselves will observe, I will defend my statements in the face of those who have acted uncivilized.  I'm an ordinary citizen, not a saint, and admit to taking personal, sophomoric remarks.

This standpoint of yours not only unfortunately diminishes the validity of the proposed scenario, it also diminishes the possibilities of a friendly atmosphere and all the values I believed to be the essence of a good christian.

In your eyes, yes I'm sure that is the case...as you have made quite clear in earlier statements.  As for a friendly atmosphere, what common ground can there be between light and darkness?  I am sharing the light of Truth, and some of those who prefer to remain in the dark regarding these things are acting, predictably, with derision and contempt.

I am under no onus nor compulsion to make further attempt to put these things into a more scientific package for those who won't see the forest for the trees, who expect others to chop down the whole forest so they might have the perfect 'tree of knowledge' they've picked, standing in their living rooms in time for the holidays.

As I've told you before, Gwandau....If still, after all I have shared, you cannot see, go and dig, as I have done.  Though the digging's not getting any easier for those who are after the Truth.  I and my family have been harrassed repeatedly in numerous ways, our internet has been up and down repeatedly, computer hacked, our ISP harrassed as well.  I have come on strong with these Truths because they need to be seen, and I may not be on the internet much longer.

However, I did not come here to 'make' you or anyone else a believer. 

Continually seek the Truth with honest heart, eye, and mind...and the outstretched Hand of God ye shall find.


http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/2hands/2hands1.htm



Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ




There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near." Luke 21:25-28

[TechStuf]

For those who might be paying attention, please re-read reply  #79 in this thred.  The Christ Church New Zealand quake occurred when the moon was near it's northern most point each month.  Considerably north of it's formerly accepted norm of 28.5 degrees.

As the moon again reaches it's northern limit here in a few days, it will be interesting to see what effects may again be exhibited in the earth's crust.


Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ

The above was posted in this thread almost a week ago. 



The following 7.2 quake occurred yesterday, Wednesday, September 29, 2010 at 12:11:24 PM (CDT)


http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2010bubv.php



Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ

[gravityblock]

What beats me is the abscence of the thousands and thousands of amateur astronomers that years ago would have noticed this change in the orbit of Earth around the Sun. It would have resulted in a global outcry of a magnitude that would make any attempts to cover this up by proffesional astronomers totally impossible.

And it would mean that every proffessional astromomer on Earth would be knowing about this without saying it to anyone, since it is something they would detect the same instant it  started to happen.

Gwandau

I agree, but what if the earth is pushed either up or down in it's orbit while at the same time changing it's axial tilt to offset and balance out this orbital change, then it would go un-noticed by both the amateur and professional astronomers.

GB

[Atlastired]

What beats me is the abscence of the thousands and thousands of amateur astronomers that years ago would have noticed
this change in the orbit of Earth around the Sun. It would have resulted in a global outcry of a magnitude that would make
any attempts to cover this up by proffesional astronomers totally impossible.

Amateur astronomers dont measure the Sun elevation, or the Sunrise/Sunset time, the Moon Elevation, The Sunposition in the Zodiac at Sunrise/Sunset, the positions of the planet in relation to the Zodiac.
They are viewing some distant galaxies, they sometime watch a planet here and there without having any clue about the mathematical calculation to predict where that planet should be based on 1650's observations.

BECAUSE THOSE WERE THE OBSERVATION METHOD OF ANCIENT ASTRONOMERS.

Even a minor North Star change will be associated to the legs or local environement setting of the telescope.

You have people who observe that the elyptical plane has moved, but you are denying it based on your ignorant belief that amateur astronomer are looking at this all day/nignt.

You dont use a telescope to measure the elyptical plane, you are trying to get an angle, not a light show

Proffessional Astronomers are using the 1650's mathematic formulas and observation to predict planet aligment and such.
"Why check, this never changed" Thats what I received from the proffessional Astronomer from a proffessional Observatory.
So Earth could move upside down and They will blame you Eye sight (Refraction) or they will denied it based on Beliefs and Faith

Its up to us folks, Lets roll!

[TechStuf]

Our Father reveals that one of his angels, at this late hour, would "pour out His bowl" upon the sun.


http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2010/01/nasa-images-earth-sized-spherical.html

http://sites.google.com/site/2012thebigwobble/nasa-spheres-updated


That must be a rather large 'bowl'.....


Recently a huge spot appeared on Venus on the same day an asteroid impact was witnessed on Jupiter.


Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ



There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near." Luke 21:25-28