Motor test - input appreciated.

[Mi]

What is your conception of the operation principle of the Perendev magnetic motor, showed in this video?
Do you know what type of neodymimum magnets used by Mr. Mike Brady in his motor, in the video? What's are the dimensions and the magnetic orientation of the magnets? What's are the geometric relations between magnet to magnet, and between the rotors and stators?

After studying Brady's, i am 99% certain he uses repellation between stator and rotor. Orientation: Pole<->pole, radial to construction.

On the other hand What's are the properties of your magnets? What's are the dimensions and orientation?

Same as my 99% certainty, although mine are too short, poles are too close to eachother, i believe.

And I also think not the shielding is the point, which actuate this type of motors.

The shielding would not be actuating, it would only be to lessen the initial repellation as rotor magnet approaches the upcoming stator magnet, and produce further general unbalance.

What's about the movie you ask about Mi?
I see some magnets attracting to other magnets. Is this right? Because this means nothing useful.
If the thing works why they are stops? In fact if the thing works, they aren't stop instantly.
It's a video of Calloway? Calloway's design is incorrect, i think.

No, i think the magnets in video are repelling, but not sure. The stop is because the track ends, no? As far as i remember, the video is from someone's attemt to replicate a Calloway principle, yes. Why do you think Calloway principle is wrong?

[mark australia]

You are right its a repulson method...thats why if place under load or left running for a few days the magnets loose their powers. Many models of magnet motors using repulsion methods have run...but lose their power. The energy has to come from somewhere. I am not sure if this applies to the Torbay motor.
Kind Regards
mark

[Mi]

Well, here we have the "end effect" of the tracks at work.
In a complete circle we have no "end effects" , cause we are in a loop and only shielding will work to get the rotor to the next stator segment !

But...
Take the track, make it longer, curve it UP at the end, curl it around to meet the beginning of the track - you have a circle, loop. The upper plate keeps moving eternally, but now inside the circle. End of story?

No one to answer this?
Is it because it embarassingly reveals my ignorance? This question seems crucial to me. Is it not?

[hartiberlin]

If you close the stator loop, you have no end-track effects abymire, where the rotor
wants to move to.... Thus you need shielding to get a differential force again...
Been there have done these experiments...

[Gregory]

I agree... The motor (in the movie) works in a repulsion method. But why? No one explained this...

So here is a few of my explanations:

See Brady's movie first, the starting of the motor. When the stators are closing, and before the rotor strats, you can see it first swing a little in counterclockwise direction. After this little swing it shows a tiny swing back in clockwise. And only begin to spin and accelerating after this swing -- swing back pattern. This is a very important pattern.
Reconciled with the construction of the motor this proves one thing: Every interaction between the magnets is repulsion in every position of the motor, because never appear a similar pattern with attraction. (Attraction is impossible to balance, but you can balance something with repulsion.)
And... If everey interaction in the motor is repulsion in every position, this also means the magnets in the design isn't oriented through thickness. They are oriented diametrically (or perchance radially), and mounted in the same way to repell each other in every position, i think. The dimensions of the magnets are also important.

Doesn't matter you use a closed loop cycle, or a straight line. If it works, It works in either. But if it doesn't work, it doesn't work either.
Of course in a straigth line you have an end effect in the end of the stator track. But thats all. This is not a devilish thing.

Greg