Bash Rosemary Ainslie

[Pirate88179]

ARRRRRRR!

Thank you,

Bill

[Rosemary Ainslie]

ARRRRRRR!

Thank you,

Bill

LOL   

[ElectricGoose]

Jerry I'm afraid that I can't log in for some reason.  I think I need to identify a code of some sort and I simply can't read it to identify it.  And I have no idea why it won't take my password when I log it in.  it seems to identify me by name?  And then procedes to ignore my best efforts.  Most frustrating.   As always I'm in some kind of eternal quarrel with internet systems.   

If I don't manage it then just know I'm in sympathy.  The Open Source spirit at EF.com is actually just lip service.  It is my opinion that a more truthful mission statement would be as follows.

While we at EF.com advertise that we are 'open' we actually define the term 'open' loosely.  It is here used in the sense that we have conferred on ourselves an explicit right to appropriate and to 'help ourselves' to any knowledge or any information - presented by those unwitting members who we may successfully DUPE into submitting this, their knowledge.  This appropriation will be on an exclusive basis and our rights here are inviolate.  All work presented will, therefore be considered to be our work.  All ideas presented will be considered our ideas.  And we - this group of '5 PLUS ADMIN' as refered to by Ashtweth - and constituting, as it does, this self-serving EF.com cartel - not excluding CatLady who is Harvey's wife - hereby reserve these rights together with our own adventurous interpretation of TRUTH - which in no way is constrained to, or related to, or has any dependency on - reality or facts.  Should any member defy these our rights with any presumptive or alternate version that requires recognition of their own rights - then they WILL be banned.  Should any member challenge these rights then they will be banned.  Should any member question these rights then they will be banned.  And we will then AND FOREVER, deny such banned members access to their work - regardless of the time or expense thereby devoted to this.  It must be understood that we exercise all these our rights over all member's rights which are hereby deemed forfeit and considered of no force and effect - and in any event trivial to these arbitrary requirements of ours.  And we do so to further our own best interests.

Further.  Our version of TRUTH will be defined as our rights to allege, imply, infer, hint, or simply state 'half truths' precisely as we deem fit.  And we will use these tools to dupe our members and our public, both as and when we can - for as long as we can - in the hopes that they will continue to present us with as much exploitable information as they can manage.



Anyway.  That's my opinion.  LOL
Kindest regards,
Rosie

Well said Rosie!!

Those EF people are hypocritical horrors of humanity who parade around in 'angels' robes, signing out with effervescant nothing salutations such as "Love and Light"..."Hopes and Dreams"....and yet all the while slink in dark shadows thieving like Judas Iscariot from the poor box.  Additional to this is the 'PATHS' scam which seems to rope in so many weak minded fools who believe that the single post 'true story accounts' of how PATHS have changed their life is the real deal!!!  OMG 

As for Ashtweth, he is a two faced hypocrite whose only chance at free energy IS to steal your idea Rosie and claim it as his own.  His levels of irony know no bounds, and whilst on one hand ranting what a treachorous organization BP is, will then on the other make a useless Orbo replication which consists of no less than 7 kilos of polycarb which equates to at least that many barrels of polluting crude oil.  When questioned about it, he will then threaten expulsion and cry to forum management such as FatLady, ahem I mean CatLady (but seriously have you seen her forearms, its like the Russian heavyweight division!!).

Anyhoo, don't you worry Rosie, OU may be ugly but you always get the unbridled truth here.   

Quite frankly, I think far too much talking goes on at EF.

Kind regards.

E-Goose

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Well said Rosie!!

Those EF people are hypocritical horrors of humanity who parade around in 'angels' robes, signing out with effervescant nothing salutations such as "Love and Light"..."Hopes and Dreams"....and yet all the while slink in dark shadows thieving like Judas Iscariot from the poor box.  Additional to this is the 'PATHS' scam which seems to rope in so many weak minded fools who believe that the single post 'true story accounts' of how PATHS have changed their life is the real deal!!!  OMG 

As for Ashtweth, he is a two faced hypocrite whose only chance at free energy IS to steal your idea Rosie and claim it as his own.  His levels of irony know no bounds, and whilst on one hand ranting what a treachorous organization BP is, will then on the other make a useless Orbo replication which consists of no less than 7 kilos of polycarb which equates to at least that many barrels of polluting crude oil.  When questioned about it, he will then threaten expulsion and cry to forum management such as FatLady, ahem I mean CatLady (but seriously have you seen her forearms, its like the Russian heavyweight division!!).

Anyhoo, don't you worry Rosie, OU may be ugly but you always get the unbridled truth here.   

Quite frankly, I think far too much talking goes on at EF.

Kind regards.

E-Goose

Hi E-Goose

I've been rolling.  This thread was intended to allow Ash and Glen to 'let rip' and I'm getting a bit alarmed that it's just encouraging everyone to 'bash' THEM.  Not sure that this is 'allowable' - but I'll tell you what.  It's just so NICE to air one's views.  LOL.  And I had some idea that they aren't exactly popular when I got all those off forum communiques - and on forum for that matter.

But in the interest of 'fair play' I'll say this.  EF.com and Panacea have dedicated some many years to the promotion of free energy - and without EF.com and Glen's input - there would be no record of replication.  That they now STRIDENTLY deny this - coupled with their anxious need to hide the evidence - is just a sad consequence of a rather human need to try and snaffle some desirable technology.  Nor does it say that much about their integrity. 

It gets confusing when they publicly deny any benefit in the technology and then Ashtweth comes to this forum to try and rally replications.  It seems rather fruitless I would have thought.  And he also rather shamelessly demands respect for his work in a paper that had absolutely NO contribution from himself - whatsoever.    They seem to have a rather uncommitted relationship with the simple truth.  Then he affords himself every license to damn my character to hell and demand that I DO NOT DEFEND MYSELF.  And on and on.  What's really salutory is that one expects that one is working with decent, albeit eccentric people - only to find oneself ducking some rather ugly blows from a kind of mindless inarticulate thug who works in gangs of 5.  And it seems they have a 'no holds barred' license in attacking the frail and the elderly.  Luckily - my frailty is not in my tongue.  I'm marginally more articulate than they've allowed and then.  What the hell.  They've given me all this practice.   

I get it now that the contributors, members and readers here are somewhat more discerning.  I was so 'outnumbered' by that noisey 5 that I was also losing respect for their membership and, quite frankly for my own.  I expected someone to rally.  Some kind of protection even if it was just for the elderly.     LOL.  But - that no-one did rally sort of damned my cause to hell.  And eventually I found myself entirely gagged and unable even to address obvious distortions.  So I faught a lonely corner.  The good news is that they banned me.  And Poynty - to his credit advised me to come here.  And I certainly don't I feel lonely here.  Which is a HUGE comfort. 

Kindest and best,
Rosie   

[sm0ky2]

What's up with all these people getting their own "hate threads"?
i hope noone makes a "lets rip on smoky the 2 thread"........


as far as ash & crew,..   i gotta give em some credit. they do have endurance....
they each sorta fall into their own roles in their little operation.
you have the brains, who just sits back and doesnt say anything.
you have the instigator, to will cause all sorts of chaos, but never get involved directly in the conflict.
then you have the defender who stands in the front protecting their domain, and promiting their ideas.
and there are other, less obvious, but equally important roles that are played.

It has proven to be very effective, and enabled them to accomplish many things. wether or not anyone agrees with their particular tactics, or understands their true motivation, one cannot argue against their influence in the free energy community.

I can't tell you wetherto condemn or respect these people.
but i can tell you this, all you have to do is think about Chaz Campbell's Balls, and you will understand that these people have a determination that would rival the executive board of any major corporation.

Nothing we post in this or any other thread is going to make them pack up and walk away.
Their goals are much larger than you or I.
they're here for good...... (or bad)