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[dllabarre]

Hello DonL.  Thanks for the explanation here.  I would love to know if you'll increase the turns and how that changes the general efficiency.  ALSO.  Are you planning to build the rotor?

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

First things first.
I want to determine what combination of modern day materials works the best.

Next steps:
1) carefully unwind the enamel copper wire
2) cover the bare gal. steel wire with a piece of cotton to insulate it from the bare copper wire in the next step
3) wind bare copper wire over the cotton and in between the gal. steel wire winds. Basically replacing the enamel copper wire with bare copper wire insulated with the piece of cotton between the two.

Cotton insulated copper wire is too expensive for most people today but in 1880 it may have been the only choice or at least inexpensive.  Mr. Stubblefield was a farmer so I don't think he had a lot of money but who knows.

IF the enamel insulated copper wire is as good as cotton insulated copper wire then we can make these Earth Batteries a lot less expensive.

DonL

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Guys - have being going into things in greater depth and in discussion with experts.  I trust you all realise FULLY that my training in all matters scientific is somewhat sparse.

Here's what I understand is the situation.  The facts are that the 'galvanic' effect is similar to the dosing of metals that enable a transister's bias.  It depends on an interaction of one metal type with another metal type - nothing else.  This establishes a voltage and that's the voltage drop that's been accounted for on our own switching circuit.  I really should have known this.  But once it's established - which is simply established by proximity - then that voltage remains unless - obviously - it's degraded or destroyed - over time.  It is absolutely NOT traditionally associated with a 'battery' and the most of those that I've spoken to have never heard of the Nathan Stubblefield 'earth battery'.  Until Laser started this thread - nor had I.

Then.  The fact is that Laser has exploited this effect in finding a way to generate a current from that voltage potential and, uniquely, uses it to generate enough current to move the rotor.  That's the 'departure' or 'variation' that is entirely Laser's contribution.  But the minute he gets the rotor to spin then we indeed have a generator

However, there is no question that the effect is enhanced when the surfaces are moistened.  But that's explicable.  Current is more easily enabled through a liquid than through the mass of the wires itself.  That's to be expected.  However, what is NOT likely to be happening is that the water molecules themselves are being changed.  Which means that we've effectively got a solid state potential to generate current and at no apparent cost to the material of the coil nor to the body of the rotor.  That's effectively a really elegant example of conservation of charge.

In Laser's first video example we have a combination of things.  The material has been doped with salts to degrade their coatings which puts the different wires in closer contact with each other.  This is obviously advantageous.  And in the deeper layers of the coil - where there may be some residual damp - there is, as mentioned the possible added benefit of this same damp condition that assists in the flow of current.  I get it that the iron must not touch the iron which requires some kind of material separation between the coils and I'm reasonably certain that one can apply any variety of materials to achieve this.  What I'm trying to point to is that the application of the 'cotton field' is only because it's likely to absorb water readily and it's understood that water will enable that current flow.  I don't know that it's required. But only further tests will establish this conclusively.

To my way of thinking - I am DELIGHTED with this variation of the Nathan Stubblefield Battery as I am now satisfied that it has been modified into LASERSABER's generator - which, apart from the reed switches - is solid state.  While it is true that the level of current flow is somewhat nominal - it is also then true that we potentially have something - albeit rather bulky - that is able to deliver energy potentially and, dare I say it, perpetually - rust and occassional shorting excepted.  That's HUGE.

I will be doing tests with my own material which will be assembled on campus - that I can exploit the considerable intellectual expertise available there.  I'll be starting the build on Monday - but may yet need to impose on members here to give a detailed schematic on the rig.  Bill?  Someone?  I'm still not sure how to join those wires and where to position the reed switches.  If someone with some patience could sketch this out clearly and exactly and post it here I think we'd all be most obliged.

I was hoping that Jet could help us by doing a build but he's time is entirely proscribed and unfortunately he won't be joining us. 

Regarding the need to get more energy out of it.  That's definitely required.  But as the rig is still scalable - then that's also resolvable.  It may seem somewhat bizarre to have a structure the size of a small garden shed lighting a couple of house lights - but we just need to remember how big were our early ineffecient computers.  To my way of thinking those hurdles will be resolved as time goes by.

As it relates to the solid state switching that we use in our technology - frankly I think this development is way more important.  I can, in any event, see a happy marriage between the two.  What I can do, which is of very real interest in this experimental evidence, is see some more justification for the thesis - which is always my overriding interest - especially as it relates to the potential to entirely conserve charge yet have current flowing.  I hope that Laser won't object to my using it for this. 

Regards,
Rosemary

[Rosemary Ainslie]

First things first.
I want to determine what combination of modern day materials works the best.

Next steps:
1) carefully unwind the enamel copper wire
2) cover the bare gal. steel wire with a piece of cotton to insulate it from the bare copper wire in the next step
3) wind bare copper wire over the cotton and in between the gal. steel wire winds. Basically replacing the enamel copper wire with bare copper wire insulated with the piece of cotton between the two.

Cotton insulated copper wire is too expensive for most people today but in 1880 it may have been the only choice or at least inexpensive.  Mr. Stubblefield was a farmer so I don't think he had a lot of money but who knows.

IF the enamel insulated copper wire is as good as cotton insulated copper wire then we can make these Earth Batteries a lot less expensive.

DonL

Thanks again DonL.  Your reasons are impeccable. 

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

[Omnibus]

He did.  He used mag wire for the copper which is plastic coated.

Bill

This has to be understood carefully. If the two wires ware insulated there shouldn't be any voltage when the circuit is open. Any voltage measured will be suspicious and has to be looked into very carefully, as I said. Moisture should be excluded also.

[Rosemary Ainslie]

This has to be understood carefully. If the two wires ware insulated there shouldn't be any voltage when the circuit is open. Any voltage measured will be suspicious and has to be looked into very carefully, as I said. Moisture should be excluded also.

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