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Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

Started by lasersaber, September 01, 2010, 09:59:28 PM

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Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 06:20:53 PM
Are you not interested where that power could come from  ???
YES.  Very interested.  WHAT is your point?  I don't think that justifies you DEMANDING further tests to satisfy your curiosity.  Lasersaber does NOT claim OU.  How exactly would you enjoy me DEMANDING that you conduct these tests and give us the results?  That's exactly the same thing.  What's lacking is a certain want of courtesy.  Just revisit your posts.  The implication is that it is IRRESPONSIBLE to suggest that there's anything significant in these tests - this in support of Omnibus who described the tests as TRIVIAL.  Here is your actual quote.

Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 05:35:53 PM
I am highly assuming that the same happens with the proposed NS coils of lasersabre. If he claims, that it isn't the case, and his power comes from somewhere else, it is his job, to prove it or at least try to eliminate the most disturbing factors. Understood?
Not only are you somewhat liberal in your assumptions but it's ALARMING to see that you find any need at all to eliminate what you find as 'the most disturbing factors.' as you put it.  So.  It is absolutely NOT understandable NOR understood.  Laser has construed NOTHING.  You, on the contrary have construed EVERYTHING. 

Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 06:20:53 PMWhat good example?
I am referring to the good example set by Laser, of experimenting and then reporting on the experimental results.  May we impose on you to do the same?  Until you've replicated that test I strongly recommend that you withhold ALL your negative criticisms.  I think that would be more in the interest of good research disciplines than ASSUMING explanations especially in view of the fact that your explanations are shown to be spurious.

Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 06:20:53 PMIf I find out the very first time in my life how a galvanic cell works and then start a topic on that, is this a good example? No.
On the contrary.  If I ever found out about anything at all that promoted clean green energy and then did not do my damnedest to understand it - then indeed - you may criticise me.  And I have NEVER questioned the galvanic effect.  I have questioned anyone's right to use the term in conjunction with a 'battery supply energy source' when there's a clear want of evidence that any electrolytic process is taking place anywhere at all.  The galvanic effect is associated here with a battery effect.  I sincerely believe that it is more in the nature of a generative effect and will hold to that opinion until I hear from a chemist that this is wrong.

Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 06:20:53 PMIf I find out the very first time in my life that I can pick up some voltage when putting a cable into the air and then start a topic on it, is this a good example? No.
It certainly is NOT the first time in my life that I find I can pick up voltage by putting a cable in the air.  Where exactly do you construe this ASSUMPTION?

Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 06:20:53 PMWe are talking about commonly known things in electricity.
NOT TRUE.  I have now had the good fortune to speak to more than a few EXPERTS and only one of them had heard of a Nathan Stubblefield Battery.

Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 06:20:53 PMAnd even if both of these examples are not well known by the individual one can easily apply this knowledge yourself with a simple google search.
Which is EXACTLY what I did.  Check my reference.  And the result of that search shows me that Omnibus' and your own definition of battery is somewhat FLAWED. 

Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 06:20:53 PMAnd that's why I didn't start a topic a year ago about "collecting free energy from the air".
No-one on this thread has EVER talked about getting free energy from the air.  You diminish the level of interest and knowledge here by this association.  And that much is self-evidently your objective.

Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 06:20:53 PMThis would have been a joke, but you are talking about such a thing as if it's the "killa device from outa space".
NOT TRUE.  I have NEVER claimed to get voltage from thin air.  Therefore are your snide associations absolutely NOT appropriate.  What I think is a 'killa device from outa space' as you so crassly put it, is the simple fact that laser is teaching us the innate properties in the galvanic effect that elevate it to a generative effect.  That IS interesting.

Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 06:20:53 PMIf both of the above examples aren't the case, then he needs to prove it, as I said before. Unless this happens, there is absolutely nothing special to it, because it's most likely a power source from the grid.
Since neither examples are the case then Laser need prove NOTHING.

And - nothwithstanding the alarming association of the 'sicknesses' in the Stubblefield family - there is NOTHING harmful in the use of copper in conjunction with iron.  Else the entire human population in the first world and the most of us in the second and third world - would have learned of this before now.

Rosemary

IotaYodi

QuoteBut as it is now even the electric distribution boards in lasersabres room can easily cause the coils to collect hundreds (!) of milliVolts. I can do this myself with a simple wire anytime,
Entirely true. Turning the power off will tell you how much its adding. Then add any major outside external fields.

Quotedid you know Stubblefields family got sick because the earth /water was contaminated?
Not the whole family. Even stubblefield himself at the end was emaciated but even that is not 100% it was caused from his work. Personally I think it was but no one knows for sure.

QuoteMaybe his earth coils got their power from something in the ground
You betcha. Stubblefield looked for hot spots of telluric currents. That was documented by Ns himself. The coil will not work in the same exact manner externally. You will see higher current flows in the ground because of its materiel makeup and ability as a conductor. Air is not a good conductor but does have an electrostatic potential of 100 v per vertical meter.
If this coil externally will act like a standard induction coil,then a variable speed motor on the simple magnetic rotor might tell us something. The more abrupt the make or break,on & off times,the more intense the magnetic field lines on the primary. I would think that would give us more current on the secondary. Timing will vary depending on the number of turns and core size. There will be an optimum rpm or cycle for any make&break on any given coil. 
To avoid any confusion on my part for some. The copper and iron wires around the core are of equal length. That is considered 1 or unity. That is the primary. The copper coil wound on top of that is the secondary. I assume most of you address it in this manner.

What I know I know!
Its what I don't know that's a problem!

Magneticitist

i wonder if the rate at which the atmospheric electrolyte enters the coil is proportional to its mass. if one were to create a giant coil, would the mass be too large for that atmospheric fluid to replenish the charge of the coil while its running, or would its larger output cause the coil to breakdown faster because its not gathering electrolyte as fast as it would have with the small coil, being that it atmospherically drew alot less.

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: Magneticitist on September 12, 2010, 09:51:23 PM
i wonder if the rate at which the atmospheric electrolyte enters the coil is proportional to its mass. if one were to create a giant coil, would the mass be too large for that atmospheric fluid to replenish the charge of the coil while its running, or would its larger output cause the coil to breakdown faster because its not gathering electrolyte as fast as it would have with the small coil, being that it atmospherically drew alot less.

Hello Magneticitist - and welcome to the discussion.  I think that the question here is the guage of those windings.  If a bigger coil also comprised a proportionately thicker windings then the conditions are still the same.  But we do not yet know the upper limit of the required coils to optimise the effect.  Good point.

Regards,
Rosemary

BTW - I am not sure what you're referring to as an atmospheric electrolyte.  Nor are we entirely certain how much the atmosphere is required to generate the effect.  It seems that this has been replicated by another member or by someone outside this forum.  Not sure.  In any event, I'll try and find the link again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XihmGdDpB2o

Pirate88179

My ultimate NS coil mentioned in the other topic a while back would be the size of a 55 gallon drum using like 8 gauge wire or larger.

I have obviously not built one yet as I have had neither the time nor the money but....I have not given up on the idea.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen