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Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

Started by lasersaber, September 01, 2010, 09:59:28 PM

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dllabarre

Sorry to move this post from the data logging thread but I guess no one is looking there.
You will all have to step into the "way back" machine to remember this post from last November.

Quote from: electricmeon November 30, 2009, 07:53:05 PM]
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OK ALL,
Yesterday I posted I would do a experiment, the idea is to show which electrodes interact the best picking up earth currents, and the results are surprising.
I used a COPPER as the North and positave electrode.
Aluminium, Copper, Steel and Magnesium coated rod.

Copper Positave and Aluminium produced the best results
                                        AT REST   MOVEMENT   ANALOG
POSITIVE        TEST METAL   V DMM     V DMM         OBSERVATIONS
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COPPER           MAGNESIUM = 36.0mv     71.0mv        needle slight movement

COPPER           STEEL         = -2.9mv     40.0mv        needle not moveing

COPPER           COPPER       = -20mv      -10mv          needle not moveing

COPPER           ALUMININUM = 80mv       198mv          needle swinging wildly back and forth
                                                                         
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Results =
1st Copper as Positave, Alumininun as Negative  produces best results
2nd Copper as Positave, Mag as negative
coper and coper, copper and steel  = zilch
My test photo below showing the setup

Tiny Videos following below this post
jim
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Question:
Were all the pieces of metal used in this experiment the same size?
I'm referring to surface area and not just length.

I've never seen where copper and aluminum produced the best effect.
So if one of the pieces of metal was larger (more surface area) than the other, then that might be an important fact that we could try to exploit.

DonL

shylo

Hi to all .......did some more testing today....wound 4 coils...all.... core, cotton,steel,cotton,copper,cotton....1 layer steel ,1layer cotton,1layer copper......4 different cores... soft steel,galv steel,layered aluminum....and then a "d" battery with the outer casing removed...so zinc core...all the readings were pretty much identical....within 2-3 mv of each other....all the copper was stranded wire ....so I wound a 5th coil but with solid copper wire,...same steel wire ~same guage, 1 layer of each ....the readings were twice as high.....so stranded wire isn't as good as solid(single strand)....connected all coils in series got 3.5v...connected an led from the "shake-a-lite" ...it lights brightly ,but the volts drop to 2.6 and hold ,dimmely lit...it seems if your looking for voltage just wind 1 layer of each on an 8" core ~ 3/8 dia.....this should give you ~1v........wind 12 of them you will have 12 volts....btw the magnetic effect is very small on these one layer windings (1steel,1copper)....but it is there....also I think the reasons that bolts and wire seem to be polarized is because of the thread pattern and the twist pattern............just thought I would share my findings .......shylo     

IotaYodi

QuoteSo you're implying LaserSaber could have created a permanent magnet using Galvanized steel wire around an iron core?

Then the question would be how long will LaserSaber's newly created magnet last?
If its plain steel with high carbon then yes if hes not reversing polarity, which I think hes doing as far as the self generating magnet. A steel wire with only one polarity will become magnetized eventually. That why high iron and low carbon is better for a magnetic collapse and minimum remanence.  He has a good core so not much problem on that. As long as enough magnetic field collapse is generated to keep the rotor moving, I would think it should run for years as a self generating electromagnet, and thats regardless of any volts or amps.
What I know I know!
Its what I don't know that's a problem!

Pirate88179

IotaYodi:

If what you say is correct, then one could use a core of say neo, and have it run until the core de-magnetizes which should take about 600 years from my reading.  Is this what you are saying here?

I don't think a permanent magnet would work for this as many have tried a magnetic core on the JT circuit with no success.

It is entirely possible that I did not understand what you were saying so, if that is the case, forgive me.

For Laser to get the pulses, the coil has to magnetize, and then de-magnetize very quickly no?  This is what led me to want to try a good hi permeability ferrite for my core on my next one.  Kind of like the JT/Bedini circuit.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: shylo on September 26, 2010, 06:36:38 PM
Hi to all .......did some more testing today....wound 4 coils...all.... core, cotton,steel,cotton,copper,cotton....1 layer steel ,1layer cotton,1layer copper......4 different cores... soft steel,galv steel,layered aluminum....and then a "d" battery with the outer casing removed...so zinc core...all the readings were pretty much identical....within 2-3 mv of each other....all the copper was stranded wire ....so I wound a 5th coil but with solid copper wire,...same steel wire ~same guage, 1 layer of each ....the readings were twice as high.....so stranded wire isn't as good as solid(single strand)....connected all coils in series got 3.5v...connected an led from the "shake-a-lite" ...it lights brightly ,but the volts drop to 2.6 and hold ,dimmely lit...it seems if your looking for voltage just wind 1 layer of each on an 8" core ~ 3/8 dia.....this should give you ~1v........wind 12 of them you will have 12 volts....btw the magnetic effect is very small on these one layer windings (1steel,1copper)....but it is there....also I think the reasons that bolts and wire seem to be polarized is because of the thread pattern and the twist pattern............just thought I would share my findings .......shylo     

I've neglected this thread together with my experiments here.  But intend to make up for this - but not today as I've got a million things to do.  But shylo - thanks very much for this.  Indeed.  Plenty here to try and puzzle through.  You've obviously established a wide range of parameters.  Much needed.

Kindest regards
Rosemary