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Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

Started by lasersaber, September 01, 2010, 09:59:28 PM

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Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 10:29:30 AM
@WilbyInebriated

Don't be ridiculous. Maybe you haven't realized yet, but it is the job of the topicstarter to check the source of power, and not reverse. Avoiding that or pushing it off to others is lame, especially if we are talking about the 2 biggest and most widely known mistakes for "free energy":
#1 galvanic reaction
#2 picking up external EMF

Every experimenter should check these 2 things before making claims. It's like the ABC in the overunity scene. Once it has been shown, that none of these 2 cases apply, then the device will be interesting for further investigation and replication.
@gauschor

IF a galavanic reaction DOES NOT REQUIRE AN ELECTROLYTE WHY THEN CAN IT NOT BE CONSIDERED TO BE OU.  THERE IS NO DEGRADATION OF THE MATERIAL - IT'S SOLID STATE.  IT'S CAPABLE OF GENERATING  POTENTIAL DIFFERENCE.  THAT'S ALWAYS THE SOURCE OF ELECTRIC ENERGY.  WHAT EXACTLY MITIGATES AGAINST THIS AS A POTENTIAL ENERGY SOURCE?  I suggest - with respect, that the only thing that is RIDICULOUS - as you put it - is to discount the benefit because you're hidebound on the concept of a typical battery depleting energy in a typical fashion.  Kindly check out the appropriate links provided.  AN ELECTROLYTE IS NOT REQUIRED.

And with respect.  While you and Omnibus seem overly anxious to protect the community from any kind of enthusiasm I wonder if it is also REQUIRED that you then inject this thread with repeated irrelevancies related to those topics that have already been addressed.  If you are relying on the galavanic effect in terms of WIKI definition then this application is an entire departure and your understanding of this as a typical battery or typical galvanic effect is also therefore evidently FLAWED.

Rosemary

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on September 12, 2010, 10:36:25 AM
don't be ridiculous... maybe you haven't realized it yet, but nobody really wants to do your test for you because your 'concerns' are obviously not their concerns. if you are SO concerned about it then wind a coil, toss it in your faraday cage and then let us know the results. furthermore, it is not his 'job' and he has never claimed 'overunity'. the only lame thing here (other than omnibus...) is you telling others what is 'required' of them. ::)

it is obviously interesting to some as there already ARE replications and investigations. so it doesn't interest you, no one cares... mint?

And may I second this.  I really think that we've had enough of your distractions Omnibus.  I think the polarisation has now drifted such that this should be resolved by our monitors.  If this subject is to be outlawed then let Stefan rule on it.  Certainly I think the majority of us would prefer it that you simply desist in posting.  It's crassly insensitive of you to think that you can determine who may or may not contribute and I think you're systematically destroying what is an entirely engrossing subject.

Rosemary

Omnibus

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on September 12, 2010, 10:55:58 AM
And may I second this.  I really think that we've had enough of your distractions Omnibus.  I think the polarisation has now drifted such that this should be resolved by our monitors.  If this subject is to be outlawed then let Stefan rule on it.  Certainly I think the majority of us would prefer it that you simply desist in posting.  It's crassly insensitive of you to think that you can determine who may or may not contribute and I think you're systematically destroying what is an entirely engrossing subject.

Rosemary

The fair ruling by Stefan would be to ban you from the forum which will prevent it from being clogged by useless incompetent rants. OU community needs to advance in a positive professional direction and not fall an easy prey to it's enemies due to the laborious activity of incompetents.

Omnibus

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on September 12, 2010, 10:36:25 AM
don't be ridiculous... maybe you haven't realized it yet, but nobody really wants to do your test for you because your 'concerns' are obviously not their concerns. if you are SO concerned about it then wind a coil, toss it in your faraday cage and then let us know the results. furthermore, it is not his 'job' and he has never claimed 'overunity'. the only lame thing here (other than omnibus...) is you telling others what is 'required' of them. ::)

it is obviously interesting to some as there already ARE replications and investigations. so it doesn't interest you, no one cares... mint?

This thread (and, recently, the entire forum, unfortunately) is overwhelmed by incompetent participants such as you and Rosemary Ainslie as the most prominent examples. That's too bad but, I guess, that goes with the territory. at this point OU is free for all and those interested in sensible discussions have to tolerate the flooding by such trolls. Some forums exercise ban on trolls such as you but here in this forum some participants abuse the tolerant atmosphere too much.

Rosemary Ainslie

Omnibus - you have accused lasersaber of a neurotic reach at self glorification in posting his rig - in the first instance.  Then you charged through each page loudly proclaiming to all and sundry that he's not only NOT got OU but he has no right to even post on this thread and possibly not even on this forum.  You have challenged my own competence on just about each page of this thread and certainly all over my own thread.  And you have even now taken the attack to Wilby and to other forum members.  You've demanded that Bill take over the subject here and loudly and rather rudely required that our interest in Lasersaber's device be DROPPED.

You based your complaints on the fact that the Nathan Stubblefield battery is simply a child's example of a battery doing what a battery does best - which is to lose its energy.  But careful analysis of the evidence shows that this assumption is INCORRECT.  Not only do you not reference that analysis but you continue with your demands that my own contributions be ignored and then state that anyone who supports this device is DELUDED into thinking that there are any advantages. 

We know your opinion.  But it seems that your desire to be heard is such that you are deliberately 'killing' this thread - in the interests of putting this subject to a close. If you stated your opinion once then that would be understandable - and no-one could reasonably object.  But you state it repeatedly - on every page and after every post.  And there is no well considered argument put forward to support your opinion.  There is no reach at an explanation.  And when your opinions are proven to be fallacious - you continue with them anyway.  On every page - as mentioned.  That's a well known troll technique.  The intention is to reach a level of confrontation that the subject is then developed on a 'personal level' and the thread is then locked.  I put it to you that this is your motive.  I get it that you think we're all rather intellectually limited.  But we all only need to know of your attitude JUST ONCE.  It's enough for even such as I to learn what is your opinion.  But then go away.  That would be appropriate.  But it seems that there is an overriding need to kill this subject entirely.  For some reason we may not research it.  Why is that?  What is your actual motive?  Have you invested in Steorne's licensing that you need to keep his and only his technology alive?  And if your general concerns are for the purity of research then why are you not anxious to clean up those more obviously absurd topics on this forum?  Why don't you charge through all the threads with this copious evidence of your general intolerance that your concerns here can be considered valid?  Again.  Why? Why do you tolerate all and sundry but are entirely unable to tolerate this thread topic?  I put it to you again - that you have a vested interest in killing off this technology.  And I suspect that it is self serving and I suspect that it's being done under the PRETENSE of protecting all and sundry against my own input or that input from any like minded amongst our members.  That's highly suspicious.  Indeed.  Your motives here are highly suspicious.

If this topic had been left in your capable hands you would have assured us all that there is nothing in the galvanic effect and that there is no value in lasersaber's device.  The interest would have died.  And then you would have been happy.  Unfortunately you DID NOT succeed.  Clearly lasersaber's device is NOT a typical battery.  And the effects are clearly OU.  If you disagree then that is your right.  It is NOT your right to dominate the discussion on this your opinion or - indeed - these your opinions.  We know them now.  We do NOT need to be reminded on each and every post made here.  Frankly it is my opinion that you are in gross breach of forum etiquette and good manners and I would strongly recommend that - if you wish to remain plausible - that you, at its least, learn to be courteous - and respect a member's requirement to post their technologies as they - and NOT as YOU - require.

Rosemary