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Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

Started by lasersaber, September 01, 2010, 09:59:28 PM

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Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: Ted Ewert on September 17, 2010, 09:05:52 AM
Hi Rosemary,
Looking at the picture of your coil, it seems that your copper wire is very close to your steel wire. What are you using to insulate the two from each other? Are you using magnet wire?

Ted

Check your PM.

Saw the PM but missed this post.  Hi Ted.  The copper is already insulated.  I stripped it off my first winding - the intention to do one winding in nichrome - a layer of cling wrap - a second winding of stripped copper - then another layer of cling wrap - and so on.  But not only was it hell to try and separate the windings that they didn't short - but nor could I get the nichrome/copper mix in neatly.  The one was more 'on top' of the other.  Anyway that was my first abortive effort.  Then I decided to keep the copper insulation - which worked better but I kept knocking off those discs at either end.  Right now I've unwound the structure and am going to start again.  But I haven't got the heart for this yet.  I'll rather work on something else that's been left in abeyance for way too long.  And I'll get back to this after the weekend - hopefully. 

Fingers are cut - eyes are exhausted - and I'm generally joining the ranks of the war wounded.  I thought this would be easy.  I'm a cook - so I rolled the putty with my trusty wooden pastry roller - pressed out the shapes with a little tot measure that I use - used my small cruet spoon to ladle in the require iron filings.  Used cling wrap all over the place to keep things from shorting.  But then entered into a war of words with pratley's glue.  Right now I'm not in the mood to re-engage.  We're not on the same page.  And I can't seem to persuade it to do what it claims it can.  LOL

I'm now going to follow yours and Lazer's good advice and settle both ends of that argument before I tackle the middle bit.  And I first need to find some wood.  Still looking.  I don't have a saw to cut it.  But I have friends who do.  I'll get there.  Hopefully.   ::)

Kindest regards,
Rosemary
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Rosemary Ainslie

Guys - just by the by.  I think I'm the only one of us whose trying to guage the effectiveness of this device without water.  What I'm trying to do is establish if it's possible to generate enough potential difference in the windings to induce a current - which hopefully will turn the rotor - which hopefully will induce a changing electric field in the windings - and so on.  In effect I'm trying to find out how much of this relies on a 'battery' type effect or on an pure inductive effect.

And even if it is a 'battery' effect I'm hoping to establish if 'water' is responsible.  In other words - is the water molecule required for rusting or is it somehow being used as an electrolyte and is this the 'source' so to speak of the 'changes' - the 'energies' required in the electromagnetic interaction.  Certainly it's evident that water increases the measured voltage and amperage.  But if it can still work on really small values without the addition of water - then that would really be something.  However, even with the required water - it's not a train smash.  One can, presumably, make the coil pretty nearly air proof - which would stop the evaporation of water.  That way one would not need to keep dampening the structure. 

Just a thought.
Regards,
Rosemary

Ted Ewert

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on September 18, 2010, 04:35:19 AM
Guys - just by the by.  I think I'm the only one of us whose trying to guage the effectiveness of this device without water.  What I'm trying to do is establish if it's possible to generate enough potential difference in the windings to induce a current - which hopefully will turn the rotor - which hopefully will induce a changing electric field in the windings - and so on.  In effect I'm trying to find out how much of this relies on a 'battery' type effect or on an pure inductive effect.

And even if it is a 'battery' effect I'm hoping to establish if 'water' is responsible.  In other words - is the water molecule required for rusting or is it somehow being used as an electrolyte and is this the 'source' so to speak of the 'changes' - the 'energies' required in the electromagnetic interaction.  Certainly it's evident that water increases the measured voltage and amperage.  But if it can still work on really small values without the addition of water - then that would really be something.  However, even with the required water - it's not a train smash.  One can, presumably, make the coil pretty nearly air proof - which would stop the evaporation of water.  That way one would not need to keep dampening the structure. 

Just a thought.
Regards,
Rosemary
As far as I can tell, it's a battery. If Laser is getting a magnetic field, then most probably there is some imbalance in the currents in the windings. Any net current flowing in one direction of the windings would cause a magnetic field.
I'm in the process of drying mine out to see what it does. It's an interesting device, but I have another big project to complete before I can really give it some time.
Small guage wire will save your fingers and your nerves.

Ted

Pirate88179

Quote from: truthbeknown on September 17, 2010, 11:45:32 PM

Are you going to try that this weekend?

:)
J.

It will be quite a while before I have the time to try this I am afraid.  Things are pretty busy and crazy over here.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

IotaYodi

Nichrome is non magnetic so if your looking for a magnetic field collapse it wont work. Nichrome is 20% chromium which is toxic and carcinogenic. Not a high percentage but I would still wear gloves handling it. If there is enough current flowing in the nichrome it can heat up and start destroying the magnetic field in the core. 
Myself and others dont agree this is a battery when used in the ground. A battery is a source of power. When in the ground the telluric current's are the power source not the coil itself. This would make the coil a transformer or conductor of sorts. If the load on the coil was switched off a charge would still be present on the coil. Turn the switch on and the current flows again just like turning on a switch in your house.
When the telegraph companys stopped using them they were dug up years later and they were still charged and putting out sparks. The coils were never put randomly in the ground. They found the telluric currents first and placed them there.
Magnetic fields are still foremost in my mind. We cant forget there are 2 ways to hook this coil up either. Each one needs to be studied separately. Questions that need answering. How the magnetic field of the iron wire is interacting with the iron core and vice versus. Is the magnetic field collapse on the iron wire creating the polarity reversal or is it the Voltage spikes on the copper wire or both. This is where good materiel's come into play.
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