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Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

Started by lasersaber, September 01, 2010, 09:59:28 PM

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shylo

Hi all just built my third attempt the first was on page 19 #270 I believe.....on the 1st one I didn't wet it got nothing.......the second one I used teflon tape as an insulator didn't wet it ethier...still nothing....the third one I took the time to stretch out nine feet of stranded wire equalling 15 awg.....wound the wire in cotton..then took a two inch carriage bolt 3/8 dia. and nine feet of electric fence wire approx. same guage ..........wound one layer of steel,.........layer of cotton cloth ,then a layer of the cotton covered strand wire,...... ended up with twice as many turns of steel,...because covering of cotton took up alot of space .....checked it dry nothing ...wetted it down ...after 10 mins it read 3.5mv....10mins after that 4.7mv.....10mins later 5.6 mv seeems to be holding at this value..........so I wetted down my first build......reads .7mv  ....see what happens over time........shylo

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: shylo on September 18, 2010, 01:40:52 PM
Hi all just built my third attempt the first was on page 19 #270 I believe.....on the 1st one I didn't wet it got nothing.......the second one I used teflon tape as an insulator didn't wet it ethier...still nothing....the third one I took the time to stretch out nine feet of stranded wire equalling 15 awg.....wound the wire in cotton..then took a two inch carriage bolt 3/8 dia. and nine feet of electric fence wire approx. same guage ..........wound one layer of steel,.........layer of cotton cloth ,then a layer of the cotton covered strand wire,...... ended up with twice as many turns of steel,...because covering of cotton took up alot of space .....checked it dry nothing ...wetted it down ...after 10 mins it read 3.5mv....10mins after that 4.7mv.....10mins later 5.6 mv seeems to be holding at this value..........so I wetted down my first build......reads .7mv  ....see what happens over time........shylo

Great stuff Shylo.  Have you built that rotor?  I think - regardless of the measured voltage - it's quite important to check on the response of the rig with the rotor against the switch.  Not sure that I'm right here but laser keeps telling us to ignore the voltage and check it's response to magnetic fields.  I think?

Anyway.  Well done.  Have you got a picture for us?

Regards,
Rosemary

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: IotaYodi on September 18, 2010, 10:18:44 AM
Nichrome is non magnetic so if your looking for a magnetic field collapse it wont work. Nichrome is 20% chromium which is toxic and carcinogenic. Not a high percentage but I would still wear gloves handling it. If there is enough current flowing in the nichrome it can heat up and start destroying the magnetic field in the core.
I'm not sure about this Iota.  We use nichrome in our circuits precisely to generate a voltage and I'm not sure that voltage can happen without magnetic fields.  In any event - if it does heat up - to my way of thinking that's a bonus - provided only it can still generate some current from that voltage. And provided always that it turns that rotor.   ;D

Quote from: IotaYodi on September 18, 2010, 10:18:44 AMMyself and others dont agree this is a battery when used in the ground. A battery is a source of power. When in the ground the telluric current's are the power source not the coil itself. This would make the coil a transformer or conductor of sorts. If the load on the coil was switched off a charge would still be present on the coil. Turn the switch on and the current flows again just like turning on a switch in your house.
Very interesting indeed.  But outside of the ground?  Do you see laser's rig as a battery or what?

Quote from: IotaYodi on September 18, 2010, 10:18:44 AMMagnetic fields are still foremost in my mind. We cant forget there are 2 ways to hook this coil up either. Each one needs to be studied separately. Questions that need answering. How the magnetic field of the iron wire is interacting with the iron core and vice versus. Is the magnetic field collapse on the iron wire creating the polarity reversal or is it the Voltage spikes on the copper wire or both. This is where good materiel's come into play. Lots of questions here. 
Indeed.

Regards,
Rosemary

shylo

two hours later............down to .5mv on 3rd build 1st build at .4mv.....I noticed it's alot cooler now .....so I decided to heat coil with a blow drier....the volts increased every 3-4 seconds ....ended up at 16mv ...when I removed the heat the volts began dropping every 8-10 seconds held at 2.6mv for now ............then I tried wetting coils with boiling water...the volts jumped to 24mv ....but quickly started to drop back down.......hovering around 2-3 mv...........the boiling water did nothing for 1st .......so then I tried boiling water but with salt added.........volts jumped again in 3rd .......this time the dropping volts took longer but still dropped.......in my first build Idumped the now warm salt water on ....the volts went to 20mv and very slowly began to drop ....alot slower than the 3rd build.......can somebody tell me why the heat seems to produce more voltage.....and would more voltage  make for a stronger magnetic field..............thanx for any input..........shylo

IotaYodi

QuoteI'm not sure about this Iota.  We use nichrome in our circuits precisely to generate a voltage and I'm not sure that voltage can happen without magnetic fields.

By itself voltage is an electric field better known as an electrostatic field or e-field. It has its own lines of flux and attracts and repels,but its not a magnetic field. Voltage causes the attraction between opposite charges. Once the charge or current starts flowing in a conductor, a magnetic field arises along the conductor and where it exits is always the north polarity. Once this e-field starts to flow it then becomes an electromagnetic field. This flow can also increase the electrostatic field from what Ive read.

QuoteDo you see laser's rig as a battery or what?
For me in conventional terms no. In or out of the ground. If the coil itself cant sustain a usable charge it cant be much of a battery. Even the wet cotton hasnt shown promise. If you could tap the surrounding electrostatic field it still wouldnt be a battery but an electrostatic generator. I think the Ns coil is where Tesla got his idea for his electrostatic generator. The Ns coil may build up a charge and hold it,but so does a rug. I still consider the coil to be an electrostatic induction coil as science does, and an electrostatic generator or transformer if you will when its producing usable power. It seems the greatest power is in the telluric currents as far as history goes.

One of the things Ive run across in the early days of coils is that some were making their own arc lamps. If this could be done using low voltage/amps, then this coil is usable beyond a doubt. That may mean a lot more turns of wires. The cost of copper itself doesnt make it cheap.
In the future,if we dont destroy ourselves,cold electricity or radiant energy may replace the old standards.

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