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Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

Started by lasersaber, September 01, 2010, 09:59:28 PM

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Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: Mk1 on October 08, 2010, 11:46:31 PM
Dark energy = unknown energy .

I will say that 5 types known , but what is causing those 5 recognized forces , i will postulate that the root of those are from the conversion from dark energies .

Is electricity an action or a reaction , first off as long as it works who cares , but now we are beyond that , some times a mirror is all that is needed to see a complete picture .

I saw this video http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/56623/Secret_UFO_Propulsion_System_Boyd_Bushman_Lockheed/

I sure would love talking with him .

Mark





Hi Mark.  That video was AMAZING.  And nice to see another whistle blower.  And really nice to see more acknowledgement of Dark Energy.  I spoke to a physicist about this on one of our campuses.  A full on Professor.  He told me, categorically, that Dark Energy is still not proven.  Amazing.  They don't even recognise the achievements of their own colleagues when it confronts new truths. 

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

Rosemary Ainslie

Guys, I finally took the trouble to look up cold electricity.  It's very ably described here by Stefan - for anyone who, like me, may not have understood the term. 

http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Stiffler_Cold_Electricity_Circuit

Sorry if it's off topic - but I get STUCK if I don't understand a term.  And these new terms are absolutely not standard.  But I now get the concept.  Frankly I don't see a need for another term for this.  But there you go.  The result is still AMAZING.

Regards,
Rosemary

Pirate88179

Rose:

Just to clarify a few things.  I have built 2 Stubblefield coils and, as Iota says, my original "earth battery" which consists of magnesium and carbon rods.  So, if folks watch my videos, they should not mix the 2 devices as they are totally different.

I have no sand in my soil here, it is mostly clay, and when it dries out, it cracks.  If, as some say, the moisture in the ground was the ONLY thing, then why would my alignment make so much difference in the output?  The dip angles and the meridian alignments make all the difference, at least it did for me and a bunch of Russian experimenters that came before us.

Ignore Milehigh.  I have tried to communicate with him while he was here and not banned, it was of no use.  He "knows" what he thinks he knows and that is it.

That same tired argument of the cost of electricity of thousands of dollars to produce the magnesium and carbon rods does not hold up at all.  I have had similar retorts to my tube videos.  One guy even told me that it takes over $100 worth of electricity to make even one 2N3904 transistor so my JT set-ups are not efficient at all.  Really?  Think about this for one second.  I buy those transistors for like $.29 ea (US) so, if they really cost over $100 to produce then, someone is getting screwed!

This is the same as Milehigh's argument.  If he knew anything at all about business, he would know that to produce my magnesium block, if it took a hoover dam type project to do so then I believe I would have paid a little more than $30 for it.  If he is claiming that the energy (potential energy) is stored in these materials well, he is correct but then Einstein beat him to that idea many years ago.  Potential energy is inherent in ALL matter. E=mc squared and all that.

So, his protests are nothing new, sad to say.  when I used to ask him what he has built and experimented with his response was "I didn't have to, I know it does not work".  Very helpful and a great contribution to our joint energy research efforts.

So, while Lasersaber's rotor continues to turn, and my leds continue to light from my electrodes, pseudo intellects like Milehigh will continue to tell us why this will not ever work.

Oh well.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Rosemary Ainslie

Which brings me back to your post here Iota.  You must please forgive me.  I'm really not qualified to comment on any level at all other than our shared rights to express our doubts and our thoughts generally.  I've re-read my posts and there's very little to commend them other than a rather intolerant pendantry.  Since I'm accusing everyone else of this - then perhaps I should hold up that mirror that Mark proposed we use.  LOL

As I understand it ions are the basis of plasmas and yes, I also understand it that they're responsive to magnetic fields - which indicates a charge value - presumably based on it's valence condition.  But I think the assumption is made that there are such inside the materials - be it the iron, copper, water whatever.  And yes Laser used salt - so, presumably, he has found that the early removal of that galvanic crust to his wire also promotes the inductive principles that allow the rotor to turn.

Here's Wiki's definition of galvanised iron coatings - using zinc.

Zinc coatings prevent corrosion of the protected metal by forming a physical barrier, and by acting as a sacrificial anode if this barrier is damaged. When exposed to the atmosphere, zinc reacts with oxygen to form zinc oxide, which further reacts with water molecules in the air to form zinc hydroxide. Finally zinc hydroxide reacts with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to yield a thin, impermeable, tenacious and quite insoluble dull gray layer of zinc carbonate which adheres extremely well to the underlying zinc, so protecting it from further corrosion, in a way similar to the protection afforded to aluminium and stainless steels by their oxide layers.

I think what we must both recognise is that the only 'rusting' that laser has reported on is the rusing of that zinc coating.  But I'm open to correction.  If this is the case then the underlying iron is not rusting any further.  Again.  I'm open to correction.  Laser?  Anyone?

Regarding ionic flow from electron flow?  Here I'm afraid you've lost me.  I don't think anyone assumes that the ions actually flow as an electric current.  I always understood it that the assumption is that there's either too many or two few electrons that cause a valence imbalance.  The electrons, as you then point out, are assumed to 'move' as current flow and they move to balance out any experienced valence condition.  This is not speculative.  These facts are known and proven.  But the point is this.  The actual rig that laser has - must also be allowing or inducing a current flow else the switches would not switch and the rotor would not turn.  That current flow - cannot comprise a 'flow' of electrons for many reasons which I've listed in that link I repeatedly add to my signature.  I'll risk it again.  My proposal is that the movement or the re-arrangement of the electrons within the structure is the result of current flow - NOT the movement of those electrons which is absolutely NOT debateable.  Electrons can and do move through standard chemical interactions.  But as Magneticist has pointed out - this may be a result of the flow of current - not the material of the current itself.  The effect, and not the cause.

Regarding this statement of yours

Quote from: IotaYodi on October 08, 2010, 06:23:32 PM

Standard term to differentiate ionic flow from electron flow. 2 separate flows that can produce electricity according to physics. The Ionic flow may be cold electricity.
Free to move not free electrons. Copper has 29 electrons. If one is forced out of its shell and into the next atom forcing that one into the next and so on making a flow of electrons. This is how Im perceiving it. If the electrons dont leave their shells then an explanation is in order for me to understand.
That process - the movement of one electron into the body of another atom would require the emission of a photon.  In effect, the wire carrying the flow of current would light up like lights on a christmas tree.  However, if one electron 'bumped up' against another but stayed put inside it's own atom - then one could definitely 'transfer' energy through a wire.  But that process would take some time to 'start'.  It would require about half an hour's delay on laser's rig alone - assuming he's got in excess of 2 meters of wiring- to start spinning the rotor.  Our scientists know the rate at which one electron will influence its neighbouring electron - so to speak. 

I did not realise that Bill is not using a coil.  But I'll check on this and get back to you.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary
http://www.scribd.com/doc/38315399/MORE-INCONVENIENT-TRUTHS

Pirate88179

See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
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