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pat. 3469130 Jines, J.E. Magnetic Motor, does it work?

Started by tbird, September 03, 2010, 08:19:17 AM

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Hope

Hello tbryd and thread readers,   I think the reason not much viewing on this thread yet due to the very recent open source Anton or Meyers replica... hydoxy cells.   A cell is shown free running making at least 1000 watts thru a generator engine.   The Meyer replication was 50LPM at 50 Amps in their release as open source video.  Their webpage is Future Energy Concepts out of Arizona. 

wings

Quote from: NTesla on September 29, 2010, 12:42:35 PM
Interesting patent - I have only read the image and therefore my first question is about how much energy is required to remove the ferromagnetic slipper unit considering it looks like force is required to overcome its attraction to BOTH pistons. If this is true where is the net gain? Seems to me it would only be worth it if the energy required to move the ferromagnetic slipper in a cycle was less than the combined repulsion of the magnets and losses through friction etc.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/2magpup.htm


NTesla


wings

Quote from: NTesla on September 30, 2010, 05:52:57 AM
Nice find :) I have visted the Naudin site before but never noticed that article.
potential energy and delivered energy are another story ....

E = Force X Displacement

also to investigate two magnet and in between the use of pyrolitic carbon shielding
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrolytic_carbon

Naudin motor-generator:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/mppprop.htm

NTesla

Quote from: wings on September 30, 2010, 06:06:26 AM
potential energy and delivered energy are another story ....

E = Force X Displacement

also to investigate two magnet and in between the use of pyrolitic carbon shielding
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrolytic_carbon

Naudin motor-generator:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/mppprop.htm

I think alot of those pure magnet motor type theoretical designs fail to take into account the energy required to first get magnets with the same polarity into the state where they can use their repulsion for 'delivered energy'. You don't get something for nothing of course!

On a side note, I think Naudin's work is to be commended however I get the impression he does not spend enough time investigating a concept (or at least summarising it) - it leaves you wondering if what he was working on had undiscovered potential. The M.E.G and Steorn replications come to mind.