Eric the free energy skeptic

[erickrieg]

I don't mean it to be a gimmick, I mean to put my money where my mouth is.  I am willing to negotiate a lower power level.  I'm even open to a no money validation of a self runner.  I tried to sign up to be a Steorn witness (as more time goes by, I think it more likely the whole thing is a lie and that there probably are no witnesses).   I am well aware that there is a lot of solar energy all around us and have always recommended taking advantage of that.  I don't expect anyone ever to win the prize - certainly not over balanced wheels.   But I do hold out hope that break throughs in real science and real engineering can one day allow us to wean ourselves off the poison fuel that has us giving trillions to countries that hate us for poison that kills us and over heats the planet.

[Bessler007]

Hello Eric,

I'm not sure what real science or real engineering is but I think a real scientist looks for answers where they are and isn't satisfied with any answer.  I try to find the most exact answerI can in hopes it matches reality as well as it can.  A perfect fit is only possible when you challenge the religious dogma both sides have.

If there is any electrical phenomena we could call free energy then I think an analysis of it would describe the method to engineer a mechanical equivalent using gravity.  I think the converse is equally true.

I'm very certain if the idea of ?free energy? exists where I'm looking for it, chapters of physics texts will have to be rewritten.  A lot of people would be surprised but I wouldn't.  My opinion:

• There exists a model within creation of creation.

... is purely philosophical.  That's what drives my search.

Thank you for your answer.

[hansvonlieven]

I don't know why anyone speaks of FREE ENERGY.

There is no such thing, there never will be. As proof I furnish a submission to the Czeck government in 1925 talking about taxes on waterwheels according to the amount of horsepower produced. As far as I know the bill was passed. Fact is there was such a tax in place.

Sorry the document is in German.

http://www.senat.cz/zajimavosti/tisky/2vo/tisky/T0014_01.htm

Hans von Lieven

[Paul-R]

... I don't expect anyone ever to win the prize -

Eric, you are a time wasting bigot. you are not committed to
discovering truth, but to confirm your comfortable version of
it.
Get a life.

[Bessler007]

We all have biases.

Eric,

Hans makes an excellent point:

• 
  I don't know why anyone speaks of FREE ENERGY.

and Clara Listensprechen touched on it earlier.  Any form of energy has a cause external to the system that captures it.  There are no examples otherwise as far as I know.

The fundamental principle of any attempt to create energy has to begin with an understanding of the cause.  Once the cause is realized the question becomes, 'how can you manage the cause to create energy?'

If you would be willing, Eric, I would like to hold you to the emboldened parts of your quote.

I'm no Tesla but I'll end with a story from him.  He explained an idea to a professor and the professor explained to Tesla "it's impossible."  Tesla went on to get several patents on the idea and today we power our houses with it. 

The moral is that sometimes the student becomes the teacher.

Bessler
mib HQ

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  I am willing to negotiate a lower power level.  . . .
  I don't expect anyone ever to win the prize - certainly not over balanced wheels.   . . .