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STEPHEN HORVATH - Australian

Started by Torana, September 05, 2010, 07:29:51 PM

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endlessoceans

Quote from: Jimboot on March 12, 2023, 12:04:32 AM
INternet archive link for Courier Mail story mentioned above. https://web.archive.org/web/20101226100909/https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/features/horvaths-hydrogen-fairlane/story-e6freoro-1111119160884

Theres always a chance Horvaths vehicle used steam reforming to produce Hydrogen.  That would explain why he didnt show the boot if he had a small amount of hydrocarbon fuel to convert the water. 
1)  Even with the small amount of fuel use his vehicle would be fantastic
2)  also explains his statement of wanting to iron out the bugs

Steam reforming is a chemical process in which carbon monoxide reacts with water vapor. This type of hydrogen production is a long-established process, which is why special steam reforming plants with a capacity of up to 100,000 cubic meters per hour are now available for this purpose. The oxygen contained in the steam causes oxidation of the fuel, resulting in hydrogen (H2). Natural gas, but also methanol, light gasoline, biogas or biomass are primarily used as carbon-containing fuels or energy carriers. 2 In this process, the water vapor required for the reaction can be added from the outside or can come from the respective feedstock itself. 3"

The chemical reaction of steam reforming is endothermic, which means that it consumes heat. It is often supported by a catalyst or the required heat is generated by the combustion of the fuel. waste heat from internal combustion engines. Steam reforming yields a gas mixture whose energy content significantly exceeds that of the fuel used. 3

endlessoceans

Quote from: endlessoceans on March 12, 2023, 09:49:32 AM
Theres always a chance Horvaths vehicle used steam reforming to produce Hydrogen.  That would explain why he didnt show the boot if he had a small amount of hydrocarbon fuel to convert the water. 
1)  Even with the small amount of fuel use his vehicle would be fantastic
2)  also explains his statement of wanting to iron out the bugs

Steam reforming is a chemical process in which carbon monoxide reacts with water vapor. This type of hydrogen production is a long-established process, which is why special steam reforming plants with a capacity of up to 100,000 cubic meters per hour are now available for this purpose. The oxygen contained in the steam causes oxidation of the fuel, resulting in hydrogen (H2). Natural gas, but also methanol, light gasoline, biogas or biomass are primarily used as carbon-containing fuels or energy carriers. 2 In this process, the water vapor required for the reaction can be added from the outside or can come from the respective feedstock itself. 3"

The chemical reaction of steam reforming is endothermic, which means that it consumes heat. It is often supported by a catalyst or the required heat is generated by the combustion of the fuel. waste heat from internal combustion engines. Steam reforming yields a gas mixture whose energy content significantly exceeds that of the fuel used. 3

This article from back in 2004

Fact is there is heaps of OLD tech out there that does this. 

Remember SYNGAS?  !!!!!

Thats 1940s stuff.  Steam reforming is pretty much same

https://www.machinedesign.com/news/article/21816011/hydrogen-reformer-optional-equipment-for-your-next-car


russwr

Further Horvath US Patents data --You are to see the electronics schematic page of Horvath Patent to follow the line of circuit flow that generates overunity hydrogen . US  3980053  1976, readable reference on line. The separate UJT oscillator section generates the pulse that turns on the SCR switch. 1/F = Period of the frequency in seconds. .0001sec = 100microseconds  The on pulse of osc is compared to entire 100microsecond period time so as 6 Usec of 100 usec , so as .006 duty cycle. This can be put together on plug in white breadboard and adjusted to 10,000 cycles. The duty cycle of the final output in electrolysis cell is 42microseconds on time of the 100microseconds  period. This was the CRITICAL DAMPED POSITIVE WAVE of Transformer TR2 primary.There was resonance between the cap and primary inductance of TR2. F= 1 / 6.28 X square root C X L. 1/2 of this is the positive pulse that runs the secondary winding and cell. 100-42 = 58 microseconds left of SCR shut off time available to fully recharge cap before next firing. The small amount of potash added to DISTILLED water allows better conductivity. Horvath's original positive anode was machined from piece of thick walled magnetic pipe with a drill press and spinning flycutter tool up +down against outer wall edge to form the magnetic outward fluted effect. A 1 ohm "viewing " temporary resister in series with coil will show current on oscilloscope as it is high frequency. I = E / R . The cell pressure generated would be monitored with automatic sensor that shuts off power at it's adjustable setting. Energy discharge or "dump" capacitors are used today for many purposes other than CDI. Impulse welding, camera photoflash, impulse magnetizer, taser, auto timing light, strobe discharges, and induction heating are some other methods. His output low voltage version of TR2 was about 3-7 v at 200amp pulse through the electrolyte. See Inverter designs on You tube . Also the Kilgus Patent 2016442 emphasizes use of perpendicular magnetic field added to area of electrolysis to boost output gases by 50%. Pop Science magazine June 1944 pgs 130,-133, 222 magic with magnetism. Horseshoe alnico magnet generates hydrogen from water- no battery or external power. (And yes I tried it + got bubbles of vinegar water." N + S magnets attached to 2 steel bolts inside both ends of PVC T fitting. Wire gauges chart for circular mils- 700 X amps current X duty cycle = Circular mls gauge wire needed.  An IC driven Inverter such as dual osc SG3525 operates several MOSFET in parallel that operate primary with centertap of ferrite high frequency transformer. Output diodes have to be fast recovery type at 1kv such as FR607. - Fill up your ride at the water hose?



endlessoceans

Quote from: russwr on March 12, 2023, 03:41:46 PM
Further Horvath US Patents data --You are to see the electronics schematic page of Horvath Patent to follow the line of circuit flow that generates overunity hydrogen . US  3980053  1976, readable reference on line. The separate UJT oscillator section generates the pulse that turns on the SCR switch. 1/F = Period of the frequency in seconds. .0001sec = 100microseconds  The on pulse of osc is compared to entire 100microsecond period time

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4107008A/en

Patent with drawings.....build to your hearts content.  Yet another patent and mans life wasted trying to go against the tide of OIL  Patent expired 5 short years after he went public .....sounds like a payout to me.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4107008A/en



onepower

Read the Stephen Horvath patents and the process like most others seems pretty easy to understand.

First, this isn't the standard electron conduction current electrolysis and people need to get that nonsense out of there head. As the inventor claimed, the process is based on RADIOLYSIS: Molecular decomposition of a substance as a result of radiation, molecular disintegration resulting from radiation. Not an inefficient electron conduction current but EM radiation is what is claimed to decompose the H2O into H2 and O2.

Which then begs the only real question why nobody ever mentions Radiolysis /radiation decomposition but instead go off on some absurd tangent about amps and electronics. Does anyone find it strange that most like to talk about everything under the Sun except the process that actually makes the technology work?... RADIOLYSIS: Molecular decomposition of a substance as a result of radiation.

Here's a clue, a HV spark gap produces large amounts of UV and IR RADIATION as well as visible light. Key word RADIATION, which implies the RADIATION process used may have something to do with a form of RADIATION unlike a conventional electron current. It could be that RADIATION has something to do with it?.

Another clue, we see many people connecting some electrolysis plates immersed in water directly to a low voltage/high current car battery. They claim the whole point is to drive a large current between the plates to split the water but then complain the high current is depleting the energy of there battery. Which begs the question, what the !@#$ did they think was going to happen?. In fact, all they really built is a resistance heater not an electrolysis device because almost all the energy is converted directly into heat not H2 or O2. Why would they keep building a resistance heater then complain it keeps acting like a heater?. Maybe they should try to understand how a resistance heater actually works then not do that, do something else, do anything but the thing they keep doing because it obviously doesn't work.

This Horvath guy sounds pretty intelligent in my opinion...

AC