Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison

[ian middleton]

G'day all,

@jeff0516161:  What does the 0516161 mean or can I just call you jeff ?

Now about the urine. I've  piddled around with the stuff in some of my cells some time ago. I found that urine will give you
a strong galvanic action for a short time and then nothing more. As we are trying as best as possible to reduce any galvanic action we could not see any furthur use for it.
If however you have found that it has become a valid ingredient please let us know. Some of the wayout stuff might be just what we need, afterall I've also used aspirin and vitamin C in some cells, neither of which gave a "healthy " voltage.

@ sutra and all: This may be of interest.

Yesterday I completed  the 2nd in a series Calcium Carbonate cells. The ingredients are very similar to sutra's.
Rochelle salt, sand, bulked up with CaCo3, pyrites, tourmaline and concenterated sodium silicate. Inner and outer electrodes made of Al.
Sure enough the mix hardened very well. The cell voltage was very dissapointing. Initially it was only 20mV and the cell would not take a charge.  However , as with many of my previous cells, the voltage gradually dropped, passed through 0V
and changed polarity. Then it did a strange thing that I have not seen before. Once it had reached -20mV the voltage dropped back to 0V and changed polarity again this time reaching +25mV. I have monitored this cell all night and most of the morning and it has switched polarity 5 times and I looks like it's about to do it again. Heres the kicker, it did all of this with a 270 ohm resistor across it.

Anyway please give it some thought and any ideas will be welcome.

regards Ian

[sutra]

 

However , as with many of my previous cells, the voltage gradually dropped, passed through 0V
and changed polarity. Then it did a strange thing that I have not seen before. Once it had reached -20mV the voltage dropped back to 0V and changed polarity again this time reaching +25mV. I have monitored this cell all night and most of the morning and it has switched polarity 5 times and I looks like it's about to do it again. Heres the kicker, it did all of this with a 270 ohm resistor across it.


Anyway please give it some thought and any ideas will be welcome.

regards Ian

It seems that it always happen when using electrodes made of the same metal: the voltage bounces back and forth until it will eventually stabilize remaining unconsistant. Well at least this is what I can tell out of my experience...

Ciao

[Koen1]

Yes, it can be quite tricky to get the material you're using to polarise
permanently, indeed.
Some materials are better suited for this then others.
In my experience, slowly solidifying materials like gypsum/plaster
(which is a form of the hardening calcium compound you mentioned)
tend to need a reasonably long "drying time" before it is both solid
enough and has lost enough of its water content for it to be called dry.
Dr. Staschewski even found small potential differences in normal gypsum/plaster,
during this drying process. Only after a long period, something like half a year or so,
did the potential disappear, and after checking he found the gypsum to be bone dry.

When we want to polarise a material in our cells, it seems most logical to apply the
polarising voltage during the phase where the material actually solidifies and hardens in that
polarised state. And so, it seems to me, if our material takes some time to settle and dry,
we may need to put and keep the voltage on it during the entire time it is solidifying and drying.
But of course this depends on the material. In my experience, gypsum remains quite liquid for
quite some time before it actually solidifies.
Like you said, Sutra, you may not want to apply voltages directly to the mix of water and gypsum,
as that will likely cause electrolysis and such reactions, and we probably don't want that.
Perhaps you can use this method: wrap a layer of plastic around the conductive tube, and roll a
layer of aluminium foil or something like it around that; now take a capacitor able to stand the voltage
you want to apply for polarisation, and hook one end up to the central electrode. Now you can put
your voltage on the other capacitor plate and on the aluminium foil, and the electrodes them-
selves should now start to build the opposite charge which is just seperation of electrostatic charges
inside the cell and does not involve actual current from the outside running through the cell.
Of course you should keep the field lines in mind and apply the right polarity on the right capacitor plates,
and you could hook another capacitor between the foil and the rods capacitor for stability, and you should
make sure that the layer of plastic (or other isolator) around your tube as well as the dielecric of the capacitor
is able to stand the voltage you want to apply or otherwise things will burn out and current may still run
through the cell...
But you might try that? Since you're not actually feeding current through the cell, there should not be much
electrolysis or anything like that. Just a suggestion.

[triffid]

I am really impressed with the progress people in this thread has made with tapping some energy from the vacuum(ie.work with tourmaline).I Just wanted to throw out a couple of offbeat sources of materials I ran across in my readings.The powdered coffee was really used in a solid fuel recipe for model rockets.For this thread I was thinking that when wet you could mix stuff with it and when it drys it would hold materials in place.I was thinking too that I saw my mom roll her own smokes sometimes when I was growing up .And I saw a roll of duct tape I didn't know I had.So I started thinking that I could roll up a battery made out of some dry materials.Mostly I read about stuff.I don't usually do experimenting unless its real simple .I would be jealous if I saw some of the workshops you people have set up.Also I appreciate all the hard work everyone here has done.I am a chemist (B.S.)
and While I don't work as one now.I still have the education and the experience of one.I am hopeful for the future when I see people such as you guys trying to make a difference.To measure stuff in grams you need a triple beam balance(I have one).Your teaspoon measurements are fine.We can figure out the grams later if we need to .Triffid

[triffid]

Koen 1,I would be happy to have you name a few biological materials for me.After all the more I know the more I can help out here.Also garlic is a source of Ge.Triffid.