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FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR

Started by luishan, September 08, 2010, 11:50:07 PM

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jbignes5

Quote from: Poit on September 07, 2011, 10:25:41 PM
step by step? fuelless car? just two of the many many claims here.....

let me see two other FACTS...
1: youtube video uploaded on 22 May 2011
2: no one has replicated or proved "fuelless" car

your counter argument sir?

I'm not gonna argue with you. The truth is he does tell you what he is doing and how to do it yourself! If you want to prove it to yourself then by all means do it. He gives enough information for you to be able to replicate it like you have been asking. So either replicate it or stop beating on the man verbally.

jbignes5

Quote from: konehead on September 08, 2011, 01:21:03 AM
Ismael doesnt call his electric car a fuel-less car. that is what others have hyped it up to be like Ashweth in his video of it....all Ismael says about it in "bragging-rights" is that if his MEG "as is" was put into conventiaonl electric cars to power them, it would make three times more effecient electric cars as far as range goes- that is all he claims with it.

The electric car has a "36V" forklift motor powering it, there is about 600V going into the forklift motor from his MEG. then a single 12V batery powering the MEG.
There is absolutely no backemf/recoil plasma/arcs in the brushes of the forklfit motor thats how he can pump so much voltage into it...
the car's rear where was put on dynamotor in Phillpine DOE lab there is videos of it and it was proven wihtout doubt to be 133% effecient - this in measuing the power from the wheels in HP compared to the input power in watts into the MEG.

Nobody else in world has ever been able to take ANYTHING to a DOE lab in any country anywahere and prove somethign to be operating abover 100% effecient (overunity)....and this is a piece of junk forklift motor powered by his MEG that shows that overunity. So if you dont like it thats a personal problem and I cant help you and neither can Ismael too.

Hey Konehead did you have a chance to look at my post with the Tesla references attached? I would be very interested in your opinions about them..

Key points are Bifilar coil patent and the description and the rather odd generator and subsequent shorting of coils in the second patent.

konehead

hi Jbigness5

OK looked at the 2nd patent of the generator - seems not too complicated, as its some permanent magnets whirling around inside 4 coils and cores and the brushes make the power induced in the coils alternating AC...and also you could adjsut pulse widht duty cycle with those burshes...
I dont see where he "shorts" the coils with switching at peaks or anything like that - but the Tesla spark-gap stuff makes oscillations exaclty like switch-shorting coils at their peaks...as when the spark does jump across, and when it connects then disconnects, it is like shorting a coil with a switch at peaks, and both ways will cause the coil to go into flurry of HV annd HF decaying-oscillations, and the first few will fill up cap much higher in votlage as compared to no sparkgap or coil chorting at peaks.
Ismael makes the oscillations created by coil shorting to expand, rather than decay, "simply" by very fast and accurate coil-shorting-at-peaks of the OSCILLATION-PEAKS....so: the first "primary"coil-short causes a train of osciallations, then 4 or so next-in-line coil shorts ("secondary" sort of ) are timed to occur at the peaks of the oscillations created.
Thats how I understand it, as told to me first-hand by Ismael. This is the heart of the MEG the heart of the repelling-force coil-blast too (how it fills up caps so fast and so high)

anyways if Tesla had two spark gaps, and  could "time" the 2nd (secondary sort of) spark-gap stuff to have oscillations that are of consistent fairly fast frequency, and laid it "on top" of the intial spark  of slower frequency, and made it so the the "secondary spark gap would "ride the peaks" of the slower-frequency  first/primary spark gap, then that would be what Ismael does. You could say synchrounous-sympathetic system mabye...

as caps fill up, the resistance changes, so the freuqeuncy and resonance/harmonics of it all changes too as caps fill then dump to load- this is problem Ismael overcame in some way.

I have a feeling tesla deveopled some "self-regulating" caps like in his electric car that would make the resistance always consistent in the cpas while filling up and dumping to load then filling again over and over very fast....

Ismael is all over the bifilar coil thing - in his MEG he says he got lots more power by tripling the bifilars into septfilars....not sure what he does however exactly, such as series cancelling, series-adding, or split the bifilars where one half is induced-pwoer wind other is primary..I will guess he does the split-bifilars approach, and shorts the induced-power half of it, which would also be picking up the backemf spikes too; as he mentions in one of those videos that he is "shorting the backemf" but dont know for sure about that as usual... 

jbignes5

Quote from: konehead on September 08, 2011, 01:01:46 PM
hi Jbigness5

OK looked at the 2nd patent of the generator - seems not too complicated, as its some permanent magnets whirling around inside 4 coils and cores and the brushes make the power induced in the coils alternating AC...and also you could adjsut pulse widht duty cycle with those burshes...
I dont see where he "shorts" the coils with switching at peaks or anything like that - but the Tesla spark-gap stuff makes oscillations exaclty like switch-shorting coils at their peaks...as when the spark does jump across, and when it connects then disconnects, it is like shorting a coil with a switch at peaks, and both ways will cause the coil to go into flurry of HV annd HF decaying-oscillations, and the first few will fill up cap much higher in votlage as compared to no sparkgap or coil chorting at peaks.
Ismael makes the oscillations created by coil shorting to expand, rather than decay, "simply" by very fast and accurate coil-shorting-at-peaks of the OSCILLATION-PEAKS....so: the first "primary"coil-short causes a train of osciallations, then 4 or so next-in-line coil shorts ("secondary" sort of ) are timed to occur at the peaks of the oscillations created.
Thats how I understand it, as told to me first-hand by Ismael. This is the heart of the MEG the heart of the repelling-force coil-blast too (how it fills up caps so fast and so high)

anyways if Tesla had two spark gaps, and  could "time" the 2nd (secondary sort of) spark-gap stuff to have oscillations that are of consistent fairly fast frequency, and laid it "on top" of the intial spark  of slower frequency, and made it so the the "secondary spark gap would "ride the peaks" of the slower-frequency  first/primary spark gap, then that would be what Ismael does. You could say synchrounous-sympathetic system mabye...

as caps fill up, the resistance changes, so the freuqeuncy and resonance/harmonics of it all changes too as caps fill then dump to load- this is problem Ismael overcame in some way.

I have a feeling tesla deveopled some "self-regulating" caps like in his electric car that would make the resistance always consistent in the cpas while filling up and dumping to load then filling again over and over very fast....

Ismael is all over the bifilar coil thing - in his MEG he says he got lots more power by tripling the bifilars into septfilars....not sure what he does however exactly, such as series cancelling, series-adding, or split the bifilars where one half is induced-pwoer wind other is primary..I will guess he does the split-bifilars approach, and shorts the induced-power half of it, which would also be picking up the backemf spikes too; as he mentions in one of those videos that he is "shorting the backemf" but dont know for sure about that as usual...

Yeah the scond patent is just a general approach. I would assume the patent is the motor that Westinghouse made for him. The Box he had was the control mechanism both spark gaps and shorting mechanism for the generator winding(rotor) then fed into the primary mover (motor). If you read the text of the patent it is specifically mentioned that he is familiar with shorting of coils: Reference: "If under such conditions the coils F F', of the generator-armature be closed upon themselves or short-circuited, no currents, at least theoretically, will be generated in the said armature-coils. In practice I have observed the presence of slight currents, the existence of which is attributable to more or less pronounced fluctuations in the intensity of the magnetic poles of the generator-ring. So, if the armature-coils F F' be closed through the motor, the latter will not be turned as long as the movement of the generator-armature is synchronous with that of the exciter or of the magnetic poles of its field."  So this leads me to believe he is very familiar with coils shorting.

As for the Bifilar coils Tesla stated that the only resistance to the flow of current in such a coil is the resistive or ohmic value of the wire used to make the coil and that these bifilar coils are capacitors<-- So there is the key!. But much like resistors you could parallel many bifilar coils and halve the resistance many fold, Couldn't you?

I think I have a good handle on what Ismael is doing here. charging up the end caps then disconnecting the caps from the source then boucing it back and forth between the now disconnected caps and newly connected Bifilar. Since both are considered to be caps electrically he harvests the pulses from the bifilar setup at each pass and increases the value by shorting the bifilar coil many times when it reaches peak value. Very nice setup.

I have a suggestion for him though. Tell him to make the pancake version of the bifilar and parallel many flat ones together. This would lower the resistance to extremely lower values and allow for better ringing back and forth. Also Tell him to use two such bifilar setups instead of one that he collects from now. Remember these coils act like capacitors but they also act like coils too. Maybe layering one pancake coil on top of the other in pairs, one being the source or capacitor and the next layer being the collector. Many layers would allow for better performance. He is gonna have to experiment with the pancake coils in order to figure out how to harvest the mega pulses which should be emanating from the source coils.

Also instead of using silicon to control the shorting I think Tesla used vacuum tubes. They can handle much more current then Silicon can and they run at analog speeds.

konehead

Hi Jbigness6

I think the quote from Tesla was talking of a continuous dead-short in his generator, and not shorting coils at peaks briefly. collpasing the coil,  then at swtich opening, caps fill like crazy.
Ismael did go with "multiple bifilars", (septfilars) and got much more power, plus the pictures inside his MEG show stacks of torroids too, so he might already be doing in the MEG jsut what you suggest.