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FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR

Started by luishan, September 08, 2010, 11:50:07 PM

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konehead

hi KeHyo77
this is very interesting coil-shorting thing you have - have you got it going?? any test results yet??
AS far as I know, Ismaels causes the coils to ring first, in oscillations, with a single very quick coil-short at sinewave peak, using very low resistance bank of paralell HV mosfets...
Mabye he has them in bidirectional- mode (gates and source leads connect so that they swtihc AC) not sure if he does this for sure, but if not he should be....
Then after the oscillation-rings happen form that initial quick coil short, he then shorts the PEAKS OF THE OSCILLATIONS THEMSELVES.....so the ringing now doesn "decay" instead in increases expontnetionally... He told me when I was in Sweden with him, that he shorts 5 times at peaks in his coil-blaster stuff (he didnt have the MEG then)
Ismael told me recently that caps must discharge to be at ZERO volts....they cant have any "polarity" (?)  or differnt resistance other than what the caps are at zero-volts, or he says that the system wont collect the ambeint-energy (for some reason) ... he says this makes it difficult and tricky  to tune/design the system for particular loads and frequency of output-pulsing etc etc...anyways dopnt know if this infor will help or hinder you, but its what he told me.
Also I am wondering if your coil-shorting circuit has a two-stage output to it?? or is it jsut fill up caps at this stage??
I am working on a "diode-plug" type output for my coil shorting generators....so instead of a FWBR captureing the HV rings into caps, with four diodes, instead I want to do it with single diode into capA and another single diode faciing opposite into capB...then caps A and cap B hit load in alternating fashion....reason this is good is whtn you do two-stage type circuit and you have to disconnect coils from caps when caps hit load, at that time, the coils arent filling up so you lose power-to-be-gathering into caps, during the time the cpas discharge. so its not as effecient as didoe-plug, plus might cause some EMF or some crazy problems of disocnnecting circuit filling caps suddenly too....
with diode-plug type cirucit a cap is always filling either from pos peak shoritng or neg peak being shorted so you could say its 100% effecienct in collecting pwoer into caps, even at cap discharge-event too.
also I did a bunch of testing and to make it totally non reflecitve in extra draw to primary/prmime mover, you need "ratio" of pulse with of .5ms to coil shrot if 60hz sinewave as example...so if 120hz , .25ms sinewave etc etc....on shorting the peaks of the ringings, I dont know what that would be yet - havent got that far but it must be very short time period...

also I have a circuit Ron P in canada came up with that finds peaks, adjsutst for peak-capture period (pulse width) then chops up this capture period during peak too - then this can trigger mosfets...maybe you cna imcorporate this into your circuit I dont know - but this is how I would "imitate" Ismael's trick of shorting the peaks of the ringing....


konehead

mile too-high
my response to you is you are wasting everyones time here including your own posting trash calling people childish names.
If  I was the moderator in this thread, I would ban you from posting after your last post calling someone a fart-monster or whatever it was...that was really stupid childish and lame.
So read up on Ismaels stuff and study it if you want to criticize constructively....so far you havent done that and you are only being an "opinionted-obvserver" right now with no knowledge whatsoever of what you are talking about.
if you want to read up on dyno-testing wheels of a car for HP, look it up on wikipedia etc and google it dont ask me to asnwer your questions on stuff you know nothing about use a search engine for yourself.
If you want to prove that the filipino DOE messed up the HP tests of Ismaels car, write to them ask what machine it was, what the settings were and all that....burden of proof is on you.
Ismael already "proved it" taking it to that lab....he is first person in world to get a goevernment lab and engineers to actually say officially something is "overunity"...and this is a amp-hog forkdlift motor too (pwoered by MEG) , power was measured at wheels, which is lots of loss byt the time the rubber meets the rollers in the machine, and the car was powered by single fairly small 12V battery too....easy to do input - its ammeter on battery seeing how fast it drains in amps.


MileHigh

Konehead:

So you refuse to answer the question about the input energy or average input power.  In my opinion you can't do it.  Nor do I believe that Ismael can.  The reason I asked you about your knowledge of dynos is because in earlier postings you made definitive pronouncements that the results were legitimate.  I am assuming that you are just like me, and you don't know one way or the other.  Therefore you earlier statements are invalid.

Without an input power measurement any claims of over unity, like Ismael stated that he got 3X output over input, are bogus.

These questions are real and they are not wasting anybody's time.  All readers to this site that hear about allegations of an electronic circuit producing over unity are by definition interested in the input and output power measurements.  That's what this site is all about and just "pretending" that you can ignore doing the difficult input power measurements and then only making the easy output power measurements and then proclaiming over unity is not going to cut it.  If you are serious about your research then then you have to make both measurements.

I have a pretty good knowledge of Ismael and I am aware of what he has been doing for a while.  You look at that DOT test, can you imagine what some of the pitfalls and problems could have been?  Both the input and the output power measurements are highly suspect.  Where is the vehicle right now?  What happened to the million charging stations by the end of 2011?

The burden of proof is on Ismael - extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.  All we saw were some bewildered Filipino DOT employees have an incredibly low-power electric car roll into their DOT test station built to measure the miles per gallon and the exhaust emissions for normal gas-powered vehicles with normal output power levels.  Most of them stood by while Ismael's team set things up.  There was no credible documentation for the input power measurement and the dyno simply wasn't designed to measure that low an output power level.  That is a reasonable assumption.  I am just telling you what I saw.

MileHigh

MileHigh

Konehead:

I am sure that you are aware that Wilby has a notorious reputation for harassing and intimidating people.  Hence the reply.

MileHigh

kEhYo77

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Ismael told me recently that caps must discharge to be at ZERO volts....they cant have any "polarity" (?)  or differnt resistance other than what the caps are at zero-volts, or he says that the system wont collect the ambeint-energy (for some reason) ... 


Some good info here, thanks konehead.
My schematic is preliminary and I already knew that I have to short the BEMF oscillations themselves. And yes, I've been thinking about two stage output as well.
I didn't want the to make the schematic too complicated so it is not there yet.
Electronic diode plug sounds interesting, I will be checking out this idea for sure.

I am familiar with the circuit for shorting as I have built it. What I found is that in the end stage the oscillator doesn't do what I wanted,
so I replaced it with 555+393 for more accurate control of shorting. My Arduino code does the same thing as that modified circuit.