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Overunity Machines Forum



FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR

Started by luishan, September 08, 2010, 11:50:07 PM

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hartiberlin

New email from Isamel:

Testing figure

Testing DATA 5 

Test1.

Meralco: 1,300watts/  6.4amps./  223 V    Dyno: 291 Newton /  570 watts

Aviso tech: 308 watts/  13amps / 23.74 v  Dyno :210 Ntwn / 418 watts


Test2

Meralco: 2000watts/ 9.5Amps / 227V  V  Dyno: 455 Newton / 931 watts

Aviso tech: 306 watts/ 13amps / 23.6V     Dyno: 210 Newton / 402 watts

Test3

Meralco: 2,300watts / 10.98amps / 229V  Dyno: 507 newton / 1,100 watts

Aviso tech: 306 watts/ 13amps/ 23.56 V   Dyno: 200 Newton / 389 watts

We drive outside few 100 meters & back again to LAB & again some testing, due
to they found two sets of batteries 7amps/12V in front of the Car. I told them supply only for   
FAN & Microcontroller, but they don't believe so we test again for the 4th time & confirmed
no connection powering the motor & drops of volts & increase of current draw. Very minute
draw of current only either on or off of the motor.

Note: Actual Average time testing of AVISO tech 5 minutes. Two minutes running  allocated for the
        DYNO computer setting up.

 

Testing of repelling force.

6 times Conventional way of lifting a 1kilo coil & Using conventional small 12V DC low speed motor.

Height : 12 feet
Average Time to reach 12 feet :   0.9 sec.
Average Current draw :  0.93 amps
Battery : 12V / 24AH

FYMEGM repelling force by AVISO TECHN. 1Kilo coil

3 times repelling Battery start at 12.48 V end up 12.29V

Average Height: 26 feet
  "         Time: 1 sec
Battery: 9 V + 1.5V AA + 1.5 AA = 12volts

Note: I am Not satisfied re: the Height reached, but i don't have time to adjust to full power.

I told them, Once I recieve  the enough funding. Next test will be 110 Kilometers per hour & until battery
it run down.

Ismael
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

neptune

@Hartline's post above .These tests could be history in the making . So let us make certain that everyone understands them fully .I will concentrate on test no1 .
Meralco;1300 WATTS/6.4 AMPS/223 VOLTS .Dyno570 watts .
Aviso tech ,308watts/13amps/23.74 volts ,Dyno418watts .
The Meralco is a brand name of a mains power unit .As the voltage quoted is223 volts , I assume that the 1300 Watts is the input power to the power supply unit , that is , the power drawn from the mains . No figures are quoted for the output of the power unit ,which will be the same as the input power to the motor . The Dyno [Dynamometer] measures the mechanical output power of the motor ,570 Watts .Most of the lost power will be motor losses as we can expect the power unit to have an efficiency of between 80 and90% . Using the Aviso Tech power source , the figures quoted are for the output of this unit .No figures are quoted for the units input , as it does not have one! So the motor has an input of308 watts and a mechanical output power of 418 watts . So here we have two miracles . A power supply unit with no input , and a motor running at well over 100% efficiency . This is my understanding of the test . Can someone PLEASE correct me if I am wrong .

dllabarre

Quote from: bolt on February 24, 2011, 08:05:37 PM
That circuit was originally uploaded for someone else during an Rotoverter discussion quite some time ago now. I just left it there as its my scratch pad site. So no i don't have the source files but you can copy it an reproduce it if you want to do that as long as i get credit for the circuit.  Someone made a SS version using 3 large 150 VA toroidal transformers and it he had it working to about COP >3 but had to stop it after the caps almost exploded over volts.  It design purpose is to run a 3 phase motor direct from DC supply using pure self resonance. The motor will run at its own pure optimal speed at extremely low power consumption.

If you want to play with the sim go here

http://www.falstad.com/circuit/

Its a great tool and so easy to use. It can do a lot of basic circuit ideas but of course it can not SIM zero point energy or radiant energy....not yet anyway:)

Thank you for getting back to us.

DonL

bolt

Quote from: neptune on February 25, 2011, 01:12:30 PM
@Hartline's post above .These tests could be history in the making . So let us make certain that everyone understands them fully .I will concentrate on test no1 .
Meralco;1300 WATTS/6.4 AMPS/223 VOLTS .Dyno570 watts .
Aviso tech ,308watts/13amps/23.74 volts ,Dyno418watts .
The Meralco is a brand name of a mains power unit .As the voltage quoted is223 volts , I assume that the 1300 Watts is the input power to the power supply unit , that is , the power drawn from the mains . No figures are quoted for the output of the power unit ,which will be the same as the input power to the motor . The Dyno [Dynamometer] measures the mechanical output power of the motor ,570 Watts .Most of the lost power will be motor losses as we can expect the power unit to have an efficiency of between 80 and90% . Using the Aviso Tech power source , the figures quoted are for the output of this unit .No figures are quoted for the units input , as it does not have one! So the motor has an input of308 watts and a mechanical output power of 418 watts . So here we have two miracles . A power supply unit with no input , and a motor running at well over 100% efficiency . This is my understanding of the test . Can someone PLEASE correct me if I am wrong .

Yes i will explain it all to you.

Meralco;1300 WATTS/6.4 AMPS/223 VOLTS .Dyno570 watts .

Meralco is the name of the city supply and it passes through very accurate metering system which measures  a 1300 watt i/p. The Dyno is the watts on the car wheels  after allowing for all losses in the system as the Dyno is basically a calibrated generator.

So you can see 1300 watt i/p versus 570 watts on the wheels.  = 43% efficiency OR the system losses are 56%. This is made up of 66% efficiency of DC motor and 10% drive train losses. ..roughly. As you go through each test the losses are about 50% with some small variation depending on how fast the motor and drive train is running.

Now the Aviso Tech

308watts/13amps/23.74 volts ,Dyno418watts .

308 watts measured i/p from the batteries using calibrated shunts and accurate metering.

The Dyno records 418 watts on the wheels which equates to about 12 to 18mph. Now remember there is a system loss of 50% we know this from the mains data sets. So 418 is multiplied by TWO to allow for reversing the loss = 836 watts. This is what the MEG must be supplying to give the watts on the dyno.

836/308 = COP 2.714 This the the GAIN of the MEG device.

If stood on a glass table supplied with 1000 watts i/p it will light 2714 watts worth of lamps or heaters.

That said this is a prototype and Ismael said more than about 25 mph the MEG delivers too much power and things start smoking. I figure it can run no more than 5kw at the moment without problems driving the 11kw DC motor.

You can do the other data sets and always the mains loss is roughly 50% from wall power to wheels and the Aviso tech reversing the losses for the data provides a COP of 2.7 through out the test. So despite the glamorous  sounding  technology its no better that other OU Meg devices already shown alike looped RV's and the Bulgarian MEG etc also has a COP of around 3.

Now we have to give Ismael praise where its due as he is one of the first to have an OU device measured by  government DOT engineers so now it has 3rd party verification its a real ZPE OU system albeit not the best when comparing to the TPU or Kapanadze etc. As i said in the other forum don't lose sleep over how this coil shorting and cascading thing actually works as there are dozens of other systems capable of COP 3 which is indicative of pulsing and dump to cap techniques most of which is open source for decades. Even magnacoster coil banging with magnet will do COP >3


neptune

@bolt . Many thanks for that detailed reply .Whilst agreeing with most of what you say , I feel there is a point you have overlooked .If you look at the figures for the Aviso test ,and for the mains test , No figure is quoted for the input voltage of the motor . Either the motor runs at about 220 volts ,or more likely a lower voltage . Also we know it is a DC motor . So we cannot connect it straight to the mains . We need a rectifier , and, more than likely a transformer . These will introduce additional losses . These losses are not large , but will skew the figures a bit .AS YOU SAY , PROBABLY HIS GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT IS GOVERNMENT RECOGNITION .