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Can electrons flow in opposite directions on the same wire, see schematic!

Started by stevensrd1, September 20, 2010, 08:23:46 PM

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Quote from: stevensrd1 on September 21, 2010, 05:46:38 AM
If I remove the middle wire that goes up and down, in the center, there is a change in motor speed, a very noticeable change, thus showing that there is flow in the middle wire, the electron path follows the path drawn, if it did not follow the path drawn and if the middle wire going up and down where electrons flow in both directions had no flow, there would be no change in any motor speed if it was removed. It would be the same as if it did nothing. The electrons are taking the path of least resistance, as drawn,,and that shows that electrons can flow in opposite directions along the same wire at the same time.
You are right about the motor speed. If you keep the verical wire, you got two separate circuits, and a parallell circuit between the battery cell and the motor. If you remove the vertical wire the motors are now connected in series, and a slight difference between those motors (It could be friction, efficiency, anything), you might end up with one stalled motor and one running.

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poynt99

Quote from: stevensrd1 on May 01, 2011, 09:03:09 AM
I made a new video,concerning electron flow,this time I think I got it right.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8eUbyWa-cY

Steven,

Have you drawn your circuit out and examined the loops?

I just did myself. If you do, you'll find when both batteries are connected as you showed, virtually no current flows in the single battery, and the power for both motors is supplied by the two batteries in series. You'll also see that current flow is in one direction.

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Batteries are another example of non-electron or "ionic" conductors. When you connect a lightbulb to a battery, you form a complete circuit, and the path of the flowing charge is through the inside of the battery, as well as through the light bulb filament. Battery electrolyte is very conductive. Down inside the battery, within the wet chemicals between the plates, the amperes of flashlight current appears as a flow of both positive and negative atoms. There is a powerful flow of electric charge going through the battery, yet no individual electrons flow through the battery at all. So, while the current is between the two plates of the battery, what's its real direction? Not right to left, not left to right, but in both directions at once. About half of the charge-flow is composed of positive atoms, and the remaining portion is composed of negative atoms flowing backwards. Of course in metal wires outside the battery, the real particle flow is only from negative to positive. But inside the battery's wet electrolyte, the charge-flow goes in two opposite directions at the same time. And if we built a circuit from hoses full of salt water, with no metal conductors used, then all the current would be bi-directional.)
http://amasci.com/amateur/elecdir.html

If the particle flow is from the neg/South magnetic pole,to the pos/North magnetic pole,then the two like poles are going to repel the particle or current flow giveing you zero.

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stevensrd1

I could debate over this but I wont,much,, what is is right. And you know or you dont. Either way you will believe what you want,,and thats ok we all do. I will mention however that I did disconnect each motors power input in the video, showing neither changed speed when that happened, and that one motor spins faster and has more torque which is the one powered by the two batteries in series where as the other motor,,the one with the purple paper propeller on it spins slower and has little torque since it is powered by only one battery. But Ill not debate it further, take it as it is,,if you can use it,,then do,,or discard it. Worst case Im wrong, its still a very handy concept to ponder I think. Best wishes steve....