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Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter

Started by core, October 10, 2010, 05:10:39 PM

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stvnjsha

I'm sorry, I should have picked up on the frequency thing earlier. :(

As one starts getting into radio frequencies (RF), the skin effect begins to happen.  The skin effect happens when the current in a conductor is changing direction faster than the conductor material â€" matrix -- can respond.   The result is the current travels on the surface of a conductor instead of in the conductor.  I don’t know the exact frequencies where the delineation of inside to outside conduction can occur.  I do know that 15Khz (TV HV flyback transformer) is considered RF.
This is why the Tesla coil has some of its peculiarities.  RF is why you can be attached to the HV output of a Tesla coil and not get zapped (as long as you don’t break the connection).  The current is traveling on your skin.   I’ve been zapped with 30kv RF, got instant pin size 3rd degree burns where it arced to my skin, and didn’t feel the electricity itself.
This is also why high power radio stations output coils are copper tubing.  The inside of the copper isn’t used while two surfaces of the tubing â€" inside and out -- are conducting.

The summary is one can make mistakes with HV RF and walk away.  HV low frequency and DC can knock your ass all the way to Damascus.

Why this is being mentioned is, if a HV AC source is used to induce fields in some kind of core material and that source is in the RF range (which 20Khz is), the current migration and possibly the induced charge itself will show up on the surface of the core material and not in the core material. 
In addition, RF can also travel on the surface of some insulators.

I really apologize for not catching this sooner.   :-[
When in you are experimenting in the 20Khz range, some of the effects you may be seeing may be due to RF and the skin effect.


Quote from: core on October 16, 2010, 01:49:28 AM
Forgot to include this picture. This is a constant spark created with AC 4Kv about 20Khz (I think).


Respectfully,

Core
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stvnjsha

Don,
Right off I am ignorant of the Kapanadze coil construction.
All the coils I've worked with (motors to tuning coils) use solid wire.
The rule of thumb in electronics is if the wire is going to be subject to vibration, movement, or temperature, use stranded wire.  Solid wire does not react favorably to these conditions. 
If those conditions are not major variables, use solid.  As I understand it, stranded has a slightly higher resistance per linear distance. 

And...the Kapanadze coil may work off of a peculiar form of self inductance that is present in stranded, I don't know.  Also, stranded allows for easier coil reconfiguration -- playing.
In addition (and to make things more confusing), the concept of resonant frequency keeps coming up with what I have read so far in relationship to the Kapanadze and that automatically implies some form of tuned circuit and possibly RF -- radio frequency.  All coil/capacitor tuned circuits I have worked with that are in the RF range (UHF to 15KHz) have been solid wire.
Hope this helps.
stvnjsha

Quote from: dllabarre on October 19, 2010, 01:19:52 AM
Anyone

When winding these Kapanadze type coils when is it better to use solid wire?
Or should I always use stranded wire?

Thank you,
DonL

stvnjsha

thank you


Quote from: e2matrix on October 23, 2010, 01:35:57 PM
stvnjsha,  Thanks for posting here.  You've got a very nice web site which I enjoy all aspects of including the spiritual.  Cheers

dllabarre

Quote from: stvnjsha on October 23, 2010, 05:09:24 PM
Don,
Right off I am ignorant of the Kapanadze coil construction.
All the coils I've worked with (motors to tuning coils) use solid wire.
The rule of thumb in electronics is if the wire is going to be subject to vibration, movement, or temperature, use stranded wire.  Solid wire does not react favorably to these conditions. 
If those conditions are not major variables, use solid.  As I understand it, stranded has a slightly higher resistance per linear distance. 

And...the Kapanadze coil may work off of a peculiar form of self inductance that is present in stranded, I don't know.  Also, stranded allows for easier coil reconfiguration -- playing.
In addition (and to make things more confusing), the concept of resonant frequency keeps coming up with what I have read so far in relationship to the Kapanadze and that automatically implies some form of tuned circuit and possibly RF -- radio frequency.  All coil/capacitor tuned circuits I have worked with that are in the RF range (UHF to 15KHz) have been solid wire.
Hope this helps.
stvnjsha

Thank you for your response.

I agree with Core, very nice and informative website.

DonL

core

stvnjsha,

  Thanks for publishing your work. One thing I have come to realize is, when it comes to high voltage / high frequency it is nothing like low voltage. low voltage being 460v, 230, 110, and 24v, these are the voltages I work with most often. So I have a bit of learning to do. Thankfully the internet makes it easy.

  Exactly where I end up with experimenting is anybody's guess. I have a habit of starting in one direction, seeing something, then going in a different direction. As an example while looking at one of the pictures 'D' and 'E' of the 'electric field isolation capacitor/transformer' I started to wonder what would be the result if I rapidly oscillated the magnetic field, as you are showing. If a coil is placed in the center what would be the output?

  There is alot of good stuff to start experimenting with and education to be gained. I like the concepts and will be tinkering with them.

Respectfully,

Core