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Relative Permittivity of Water

Started by Torana, October 14, 2010, 04:35:01 AM

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Torana

tau= T= time constants of L/R or CR.
charging + discharging curves of V and I


http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_16/4.html

This is why I have linked electronics sites , all the info is available and its FREE*** to anyone , theres NOTHING stopping people learning.
IF the info WAS STOPPED then every one would be smuggling it out, but if its free its snubbed(? ?)

There seems to be calcs for everything now , chips and all ! I myself should be using them instead of an old casio fx.

eg: http://www.schematica.com/555_Timer_design/555_Timer_Free.htm

I get the impression FE types think it will take away their free thought or the theory will turn them to skeptics.   WHY limit their own potential?

A person has to know whats inside the box to be able to think out side it!

Ralph Stranger of BBC radio wrote good books in the 1930s, referred to aether, well worth reading, he was no tin foil hatter.
No doubt the books are on the net somewhere.





wfchobby

so you mention a RC constant and some error somewhere, could you be a bit more specific?

Torana

OH NO! ! ! 

........you ,had to button *that* button.....

Time costant = L/R   or    CR

ERROR = ( R + Xl + Xc + 78.54 )  times C.

This is completely wrong........*NOT my Fault*  , 78.54 is unaccounted for. ? ? R is not added to X

post #241 , may 19 2011
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7030.240

You will have to ask the architect yourself ....post #13
http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showthread.php?t=227

Good luck! !




wfchobby

okay so theres some formula / calculation error....

Im not versed withthe math nor physics of said processes, would you kindly point us in the right direction of say doing a calculation that also takes into account of the changing values of the ...water...due to temperature and so on...?

Torana

Some ?  its unworkable , AC formulas dont belong in there.

Water intrinsic properties = permittivity and  resistivity, and high polarizability as demonstrated by kadora @ Lv DC , sandia @ MV DC ,excimer laser, Joss research @ KV DC and Mic oven Hf HV AC and 50 hz AC.

http://www.sandia.gov

Sandias National Lab article -"Multi-mega volt switching in water ", points out as the water itself switches from a dielectric to a conductor that trips the main water cap bank.
***SWITCHING MEDIA**,  and thats top shelf pure water supply in the channels.

How does water fit into reso freq
  f = 1 / 2 pi (sq root L C )
or/and   Xc = 1/ 2 pi f C
or/and   C = er e0 A / d  (KA/d)
or/and   V/I = ohms    (resistivity,R,X,Z)

If anyone wants to follow that path and track a moving Reso f ,thats none of my bussiness ....by choice.
Water conductance is always ignored when the subject is Resonance.