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Relative Permittivity of Water

Started by Torana, October 14, 2010, 04:35:01 AM

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Torana

Heres Stephen Horvarths 1976 Patent 3980053

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/PatE12.pdf
http://www.stephenhorvath.com.au

Before Stan Meyer there was Henry Puharich and before him there was Stephen Horvath.
Horvath is the only one who is still alive.  He had a 1974 Ford Fairlane V8 sedan running on water.

Heres some notes on the circuit layout , which in basic form is a fullwave pulse gated by a SCR.

page 6 = fig 3 circuit
page 20 = component list
page 20 = Tr1 300 v @ 22 A ( try calculate input using ratio 18 : 1 , ...MUCHO ! ! )

- R1 and C2 = timers for UJT relaxation oscillator
- R2 and R3 = intrinsic stand off ratio
- UJT has saw tooth signal which is usually used directly triggering a SCR
- SCR = phase controller or if DC is used , switches off for any reason current stops
- C3 , R4 , Q2 , R5 , R6 , C4 , R7  are not necessary ( thats why theyre there)
- D1 and D2 are connected reverse to a normal fullwave rectifier
- R9 and R10 are permanent connected conductive path to earth
- Q3 and Q4 are connected opposite to a normal push pull centre tap primary
- Transformer TR2 secondary has an isolated parallel LC ....
...****  This completely rules out Electrolysis as an option of this circuit.*****

What does this patent cover ?  UJT ..2N3055.. ...D...C...R....frequency....electrolysis.....transformers...push pull...sawtooth ...fullwave...DC ripple...AC..passive components , active components ? ?

Patent title does not relate to patent circuit,  patent circuit does not match function of electrolysis,  Patent description does not explain non functional circuit.

The Horvath patent is one of the best examples , because of the detail, that shows that a patents  contents are not instructional and its not a manual or reliable source of info

Collins dictionary;

Patent = an official document granting the exclusive right to produce or sell an invention, process , etc

Manual = a handy book of instructions , etc



Torana

WFC International Independent Test Evaluation Report 1995 .   

Another $35 thank you very much...

Heres stan meyers 140 page pdf , WFC Project Binder 423-DA ,from pat kellys site.

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/WFCreport.pdf

page 5     "Purpose of Content"

   "establishing the dielectric value of water as being 78.54 ohms"

IF...there was a genuine independent report of the content of thse 140 pages , it would note that dielectric value of ANY substance is not measured in OHMS, relative permittivity has no units , its a ratio.
Resistance is not a dielectric value...........establish this first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_(data_page)

http://www.ozh2o.com/h2phys.html

page 20 ; figure AA = V I C  .  "water dielectric value 78.54 ohms"

This diagram is invalid simply because of this Resistance measurement.

page 22; figure 8XA = V I C diagram

page 23; figure 8XA1 = V I C AA         ( typical parallel allude)

page 24; figure 9XD = Voltage regulator PC9XD card

page 25; figure 9XB = Variable pulse generator


The basis of this circuit is a fullwave rectifier with a SCR gate with a trigger circuit = 555 based
The Horvath circuit is a fullwave rectifier with a SCR gate with a trigger circuit  = UJT based

The question is ....How does a SCR switch off ? ?


Page 64;  C5 H12    Molecular Structure of Natural Gas .                  =  ( B O G U S )

What independent evaluation would allow this to slip by unnoticed ? ?

http://www.chemspider.com/RecordView.aspx?rid=c7675b45-9ebb-4a5a-b6a4-75696d906f90

This is PENTANE , the liquid .

There are affidavits throughout about SS304 , plexiglass, water samples , people building their own renditions + witnesses.
There is no over all independent test evaluation of his circuit + its function ,that would breach confidentiality.
People need to do their own evaluation of stan meyers info instead of stans independent evaluation of himself
This file has no value at all.

Torana

WFC memo 420 page 1 !! ....    Stan Meyers words not MYN

"the dielectric properties (insulator to the flow of amps) of natural water ( dielctric constant being 78.54 @ 25c) between the electrical plates (E1/E2) form the capacitor (ER).
Water now becomes part of the VIC in the form of "resistance" between electrical ground and pulse frequency positive-potential_ helping to prevent electron flow within the pulsing circuit (AA) of fig 1-1" *****(fig 1-1)

The first sentence uses the word insulator ,the second sentence uses the word resistance.
A capacitor is not "resistance"  ,  Impedance = frequency dependent , zero freq= open ,
open = zero current.

1; fig 1-1 VIC (AA) parallel circuit .    section 1 page 13

2; memo 429 fig 10-1 ,    970 VIC  sect10 page 9 "water dielectric value 78.54 ohms"
****within the same pages of "birth of new technology"

3; WFC International Independent Report page 20 ,fig (AA) VIC "water dielectric value 78.54 ohms"
****same diagram as memo 429 fig 10-1

4; WFC International news release issue 11 A 1996 ,page 9
-970 WFC VIC  "water dielectric value 78.54 ohms"
**** same diagram as memo 429 fig 10-1

http://www.icubenetwork.com/files/watercar/non-commercial/stanley_meyer/News%20Release.pdf

***Fig (AA) VIC = Fig VIC (AA) = Fig 1-1

...remembering "dielectric constant 78.54 @25c" ..then diagram "water dielectric value 78.54 ohms"

Does Stan Meyers first statement nullify fig 10-1 and fig (AA) because theyre measured in ohms or does fig 10-1 and fig (AA) over ride his statement ?      ( how ? )

They cant both be right , ones a fact and the other is NOT.
This has influenced alot of people who dont know the difference, which cant be blamed on them but it seems to have set like concrete.

 

Torana

Heres another one ......

http://www.icubenetwork.com/files/watercar/non-commercial/stanley_meyer/News%20Release.pdf

1; WFC International news release issue 10 1994 page 6
"analysis of water "dielectric value of water 78.54 ohms"

2; Birth of new technology WFC , section 7 page 24 , fig 7 - 15
760 "thermal explosive energy of water "  , "dielectric value of water 78.54 ohms "

These are the same diagrams under different headings .

** R and D laboratories , a certified biological testing laboratory, columbus ohio.
Test method = Spectrophotometer analysis
contaminates= sodium (NA) and potassium (K)

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrophotometer

The samples are measured ,Parts Per Million = ppm , NOT explosion rates or OHMS ...its a biological testing lab ,........that may or may not have existed .
No Lab any where will measure a dielectric constant in OHMS , this is Stans manipulation .




Torana

SIMPLE EXPLANATION OF MEYERS FUEL CELL TECHNOLOGY , Rea Oneill , DUBLIN .

http://jnaudin.free.fr/wfc/WFCexpl.pdf

page 1, 2; affidavit of his visit 28-7-93 , Rea Oneill ,If anyone wants to try and find him Im sure hes not bound by any confidentiality agreement....any more.

http://www.dit.ie/tools/contacts/departments

page 3, 4, 5, 6; Explanation of Meyer fuel cell,  Oneills theory of WFC operation.
5 khz superimposed on field coils and 1/2 wave rectified to allow the capacitor to discharge?.
(1/2 wave being 50 % )

page 7 to 10; Appendix 1, Haber cycle etc
page 11; The Helium atom + diatomic molecules  pg 521

page 12; Appendix 2 , Electrical current
Similar to forced oscillations circuit described in text and designed to maximise.
1; Field coils = 5 v , 2 amp
2; Alternator driven by 2 KW motor
3; Inductance = unknown
4; Condenser = formed from 8 - 10 , 1/2 inch SS tubes surrounded by 3/4 inch SS tubes wired in parallel **     { C = obviously UNKNOWN }

page 13; Capacity + Inductance pg 685
page 14; Electrical oscillations pg 686

According to Oneill , the caps are wired parallel, IF... Oneill is correct, does that mean the 'series cap guys' are wrong OR IF the 'series cap guys' are right ,does that make Oneill an unreliable witness?
Page 2 is Oneills affidavit of his visit and personal impression of stans character.
page 3, 4, 5, 6 is Oneills personal theory/explanation of WFC without measurements.

At the end of the day his theory is as good as anyones guess, and its back to the drawing board...

Basically theres nothing else on stan meyer I can find , years ago I had the NZ pack but that went up in flames .....trying to extract something from it .   I live where the NZ video was filmed .