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Relative Permittivity of Water

Started by Torana, October 14, 2010, 04:35:01 AM

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Torana

Again.... Your not wrong ,

No patents hold reliable info, it would only contradict their purpose ,they are a legal document only.

Horvath, Puharich and Meyers patents have no workable circuits but people keep referring to them ,year after year which amounts to decades. People interpret them the way they want to.

Yep...  Patents are..." cleverly altered before release, so they can never work"

Thats what you pay for, its for territorial market rights and are written by the attorneys office.

Torana

Its standard practice for patents to have meaningless diagrams and descriptions .
So if patents arent a reliable source of info and stans authored and compiled booklets are intentionally BOGUS , then what?.

No one wants to even consider that stan would put one past them and that the misinfo could possibly originate from the man himself. Thats supposed to be the bad guys job.

Its not in stans best interest to release relevant info into the consumer market , otherwise it is no longer a viable market if it is self sufficient.

His position of most power is to maintain full control of intellectual property by NOT giving it away to complete strangers.
Stans form of future proofing his investment/invention was to shell out BOGUS info.
Most inventors do that, simply because investors want a secure investment.

Torana

Heres the evolution of Dave Lawtons circuit. 

http://www.icubenetwork.com/files/watercar/non-commercial/dave/testsetup.gif

The gate has miller capacitance that needs to be dealt to at pin 3.
The 820R is in a funny position which shouldnt be there.

http://tesla3.com/free_websites/wf_meyer_lawton.html

The 820R has been moved to the gate. (...problem discovered)
The source now goes to earth, this would indicate he didnt understand mosfets at the time of the first circuit 2004.

The final circuit uses a 2nd 555 to switch the other 555 on and off at reset pin 4.
pin 2 is the trigger , if anyone wants to improve on that ,most electronic shops have booklets @ $5 or so , that have the same 2x 555 circuit, its basic and can be replaced by a 556.

Gating was suggested by stan but theres no reason given anywhere. Its a good way to knockout resonance if there is any.

In its basic form the circuit is a step up from the 8XA ,simply because it uses a mosfet instead of a SCR and it has no dividers.  Dividers for what?

zero f = DC .


Torana

Heres Aaron Murakamis attempt 2004- 2007

http://tesla3.com/free_websites/wf_meyer_aaron_qiman13.html

Stans Tech Brief is used as a guide which is open to interpretation in any direction.
(** Y'all have to find the quotes )

Fig 10 - 1 , VIC   .  Underlined "water dielectric value 78.54 ohms"
IF its been underlined as key info ...........its BOGUS! !

Aaron = "I was surprised to find so many ideas about how the chokes are designed considering the fact that the text descriptions and diagrams in the WFC tech brief are very, very clear"

The actual fact is , the Tech Brief is heavily weighed down with BOGUS info and it will take anyone down with it .

Aaron= "The formulas that Meyer's give in his tech brief are so complex that I still have not completely figured them all out, but I have a good understanding of most of them especially after thoroughly reading the tech brief over and over again."

The formulas are every where , some are AC but NONE are for pulse circuits.

....... . .

Torana

CHOKES;

Aaron =" Meyer's states that 11,600 ohms per choke is a typically enough resistance to inhibit the amps. I am think about using 44awg wire to construct the chokes. Since 44awg is 2,593 ohms every 1,000ft (11600/2593=4.473*1000=4473) that would be 4,473ft of wire per choke. Now you might think that is a lot of wire to wind (lol, by hand yes it is.), but if you construct the chokes correctly you should be able to fit it all on, and Meyers states that the more wraps on the chokes the more voltage you will get out of them. Now you don't have to stop at using 44awg wire, you could go smaller but it just get more difficult to work with. Sound like to small of wire huh? But it's not because we just want voltage not amperage. "

4473.5827 x 12 = 53682.993 ,  x .0254 = 1363.548 metres EACH!

A choke has low DC R but high X.
11600 / 2 pi f = 184 mH  @ 10 khz ....IF 11,600 has any relevance.

Industrial chokes have L stamped on them so they can be matched to pf caps in switchboards.
Electronics chokes are colour coded for L not R
Std appliance chokes are measured in L not R

**Fender strat pick up coils, 2.3 H , 5.9 K ohm , 44 awg , N = THOUSANDS!  Red and Blue wires indicate Nth and Sth polarity.  Theres no tape on them , the reflection is because they are so fine .
NO ONE would attempt to wind a choke from 44 awg...