Captret - Capacitor and Electret

[ibpointless2]

So why do Captrets and Capacitors seem to have a self charging effect when they are shorted out?

I propose the idea with my Water capterts, basically the same as a Capacitor and can easily be made like a captret. Both the water captret and capacitors and captrets have aluminium plates in them separated by a liquid. Depending on the sizes of the plates and mass will determine the voltage, and better yet the "free energy" from the self charging.

The capacitor is just like a battery, mainly water battery, but a battery none the less. Like a battery it can charge and hold a charge. But when a capacitor is shorted out it can still have voltage in it, but how? It has to do with the aluminium plates in the liquid. The plates are producing the voltage, as to why i'm not fully sure. When a water captret is shorted out it, it  still has voltage still in it, and actually works better when it was left shorted out.

So The reason why So many people see the self charging is very simple, the Captret is a battery. But its not any normal battery, as you see the capacitors can last a long time so the captret can be used as a battery for a long time. Also applying Voltage to the system will give a higher output due to the fact that the captret is a battery and that could be the reason why captret can self charge. So by scaling up i'm going to make Water Captret into water batteries.

I don't mean to destroy my Captret Effect mystery as this is only my Theory of the Captret. I'll look more into the Baptret (Battery, capacitor, electret - i'm playing with words) in future videos.

[gravityblock]

The capacitor is just like a battery, mainly water battery, but a battery none the less. Like a battery it can charge and hold a charge. But when a capacitor is shorted out it can still have voltage in it, but how? It has to do with the aluminium plates in the liquid. The plates are producing the voltage, as to why i'm not fully sure. When a water captret is shorted out it, it  still has voltage still in it, and actually works better when it was left shorted out.

There's a thin coating of oxide which forms on the aluminum plates, which forms a virtual diode.  Here's an excerpt from wiki, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectifier#Electrolytic

The electrolytic rectifier was an early device from the 1900s that is no longer used. When two different metals are suspended in an electrolyte solution, it can be found that direct current flowing one way through the metals has less resistance than the other direction. These most commonly used an aluminum anode, and a lead or steel cathode, suspended in a solution of tri-ammonium ortho-phosphate.

The rectification action is due to a thin coating of aluminum hydroxide on the aluminum electrode, formed by first applying a strong current to the cell to build up the coating. The rectification process is temperature sensitive, and for best efficiency should not operate above 86 °F (30 °C). There is also a breakdown voltage where the coating is penetrated and the cell is short-circuited. Electrochemical methods are often more fragile than mechanical methods, and can be sensitive to usage variations which can drastically change or completely disrupt the rectification processes.

Similar electrolytic devices were used as lightning arresters around the same era by suspending many aluminium cones in a tank of tri-ammomium ortho-phosphate solution. Unlike the rectifier, above, only aluminium electrodes were used, and used on A.C., there was no polarization and thus no rectifier action, but the chemistry was similar.

The modern electrolytic capacitor, an essential component of most rectifier circuit configurations was also developed from the electrolytic rectifier.

The difference between the term diode and the term rectifier is merely one of usage.  The thin coating of aluminum hydroxide on the aluminum electrode is the virtual diode which has already been brought to your attention by others.  Also, please take note once again from the above quote that both electrodes can be aluminum.  There is no mystery in how the captret or water battery is working.

GB

[ibpointless2]

There's a thin coating of oxide which forms on the aluminum plates, which forms a virtual diode.  Here's an excerpt from wiki, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectifier#Electrolytic

The difference between the term diode and the term rectifier is merely one of usage.  The thin coating of aluminum hydroxide on the aluminum electrode is the virtual diode which has already been brought to your attention by others.  Also, please take note once again from the above quote that both electrodes can be aluminum.  There is no mystery in how the captret is working.

GB

What i find weird about the link you sent me is that they only used aluminum plates in AC currents because there was no polarization and thus no rectifier action. I'm getting polarization on the cells, the bigger and thinner one positive and the thick little one is negative. And there original one in the link you sent deals with a water battery type where they use two dissimilar metals to make a diode, which makes sense because of galvanic reaction creates its own voltage. But I'm not using two dissimilar metals i'm using aluminum and i'm getting polarization too unlike what the link said about them using similar metals because they use them in AC currents and mostly used for lightning arresters. I understand what you're saying, both plates can be the same, but why they made them the same was to make it work with AC and i'm not dealing with AC but DC nor am i dealing with diodes or rectifiers. The problem that has yet to be answer is why the same metal plates put into same water would create voltage. That voltage that's created gives us the self charging we see in the captrets and capacitors because in fact they're batteries.

I don't believe the Captret or water captret are rectifiers, but batteries.

[gravityblock]

What i find weird about the link you sent me is that they only used aluminum plates in AC currents because there was no polarization and thus no rectifier action. I'm getting polarization on the cells, the bigger and thinner one positive and the thick little one is negative. And there original one in the link you sent deals with a water battery type where they use two dissimilar metals to make a diode, which makes sense because of galvanic reaction creates its own voltage. But I'm not using two dissimilar metals i'm using aluminum and i'm getting polarization too unlike what the link said about them using similar metals because they use them in AC currents and mostly used for lightning arresters. I understand what you're saying, both plates can be the same, but why they made them the same was to make it work with AC and i'm not dealing with AC but DC nor am i dealing with diodes or rectifiers. The problem that has yet to be answer is why the same metal plates put into same water would create voltage. That voltage that's created gives us the self charging we see in the captrets and capacitors because in fact they're batteries.

I don't believe the Captret or water captret are rectifiers, but batteries.

Wrong.  The original one in the link I sent about the water battery says both electrodes can be aluminum.  I suggest you to re-read the link. The thin layer of oxide which forms on the aluminum plate makes it act like a diode. You re-discovered the electrolytic rectifier.  Congratulations!

GB

[ibpointless2]

Wrong.  The original one in the link I sent about the water battery says both electrodes can be aluminum.  I suggest you to re-read the link. The thin layer of oxide which forms on the aluminum plate makes it act like a diode. You re-discovered the electrolytic rectifier.  Congratulations!

GB

You keep forgetting that i'm not using it as a rectifier. I'm using it as a battery. A battery and rectifier are two very different things.