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Captret - Capacitor and Electret

Started by ibpointless2, October 19, 2010, 06:49:51 PM

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Paul-R

Quote from: MileHigh on June 29, 2014, 09:46:13 AM
It is not a generator of "radiant energy," that is complete nonsense.
Please provide the evidence for this remark.

Pirate88179

Quote from: Paul-R on June 29, 2014, 10:37:17 AM
Please provide the evidence for this remark.

Well, I have built several Bedini motors and ALL of them end up depleting the batteries after running for a period of time.  They are really cool and amaze my friends but, ALL of them destroyed my batteries (2 of them very expensive brand new motorcycle batteries) such that they could no longer be used in a conventional way.  I had very high rpm's and very high voltage spikes and could light up the neon but it appeared that the charging battery was only getting a "surface charge" and, despite what my meters were showing, they did not have any power at all.  I think this is typical of these motors from my reading.

I like John Bedini and I think he has done a lot of good for energy research and he appears to be a nice guy as well.  The above is my own experiences from my own experiments and anyone can watch my videos if they so choose.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

MileHigh

Paul:

QuotePlease provide the evidence for this remark.

Sure, the coil gets energized by the source battery.  The coil stores the energy supplied by the battery.  That's how coils work.

Then when the transistor switches off, the coil discharges into the charging battery.  It could be a low voltage spike barely above the nominal voltage of he charging battery, or it could be a high-voltage spike if the battery is dead and sulfated.  That's how coils work.

The output voltage of a discharging coil depends on the nature of the load it's connected to.  In theory, an ideal coil could produce nearly zero volts output when it discharges or it could produce and infinite voltage output when it discharges, it all depends on the nature of the load.

The hard evidence is the equation that describes the output voltage from a coil:  V = L di/dt.

"The voltage output from a coil is proportional to the product of the inductance of the coil and the rate of change of current flow though the coil with respect to time."

That equation tells you how a coil can generate a voltage spike.  This has absolutely nothing to do with radiant energy.

Bedini intentionally refuses to explain to all of his followers how a coil actually works because it is not in his financial interest.  He would prefer that you all remain ignorant and believe in the "superstition" about "radiant energy" and Bedini motors.

Some of the Bedini enthusiasts have to teach themselves or even go to a Beini conference and challenge Bedini to teach his followers how a coil actually works.

It's time to stop talking this "radiant energy" nonsense when it comes to Bedini motors, it's truly ridiculous.

MileHigh

TinselKoala

It rather depends on just how you define "radiant energy", doesn't it? Certainly all devices that produce coil ringing phenomena also produce "radiant energy" : RF noise, which definitely radiates, is definitely energy, and definitely can be picked up at a distance by suitable means. I have illustrated this fact many times with many different devices, even the MHOP "better than Bedini" pulse motor.  Even, you may recall, with Little Miss Mosfet's silly kludge.

The "radiant energy", which is, in my definition, high voltage high frequency noise of more or less spectral purity, is easy to produce and easy to distinguish from the "regular energy" which manifests as a DC offset and/or a low frequency AC component of the signal being talked about.

Give me some examples of "radiant energy" and each one will show, on careful analysis, that it is "HVRF" carrier and/or noise that is being demonstrated.

;)

(Yes... the primary is a true Tesla bifilar-wound solenoidal coil.)


MileHigh

TK:

It's possible that you showed the origins of the "hook."  Almost all free energy experimenters marvel at the near-field radiation of a Tesla coil.  It is so cool to see a neon light illuminate in the strong AC electric field.  Many of them have absolutely no understanding of what is going on and so the catch-all phrase that is used is "radiant energy."  The fact that sometimes the neon only lights up when you touch something with it means that there can be "radiant energy" in physical things like tables and chairs and the battery itself!  OooOoOOooooooOOoooooo that "radiant energy" is so neat and so cool!

Then Bedini notes that in the very simple pulse motor that bears his name, neon lights can also be made to illuminate if you disconnect the charging battery.  OoooOoOoOOOoooooooo that must also be "radiant energy" too!

It seems like a reasonable conjecture: Bedini hijacked the term "radiant energy" to make gullible people think that a simple, basic pulse motor is something special.  He will NOT TELL YOU why and how the coil is making the neon light up.  It grosses me out.

MileHigh