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How does Perendev's motor work?

Started by nightwynd, May 07, 2006, 09:32:27 AM

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spinner

Quote from: BEP on December 30, 2008, 08:53:32 AM

Ah!

khabe, You have built a Perendev motor! Wonderful!

Please supply details on how yours failed so we can avoid those problems.

"Perendev motor" is a deception, a beginner's mirage, an illusion...

I will not provide the proof for my claim. :P
But You're very welcomed (if you feel like it) to provide a proof that it is really working as claimed....

Let's hope for the best. Good luck!
"Ex nihilo nihil"

wizardofmars

Quote from: jimhitt on December 29, 2008, 04:59:45 AM
Any fool except you knows that electric motors are beyond 35 percent efficient.  MagTec has made only one electric prototype and to my knowledge has not released specifications to it.  Their devices are diesel and gas powered.  While I'd expect most folks to know this, for your sake, I'll state the obvious.  Diesel and gas powered reciprocating engines are 20 to 30 percent efficient, but their claimed heater efficiencies exceed 90%.  Their pending patent's working principal is identical to Reed's. 


You were the one claiming MagTec had a shipping patented device, and it turns out they have one prototype with a patent pending. Will you retract your claim as incorrect?

To point out yet another misstatement by you, they have released the specifications on their website, under the link 'Technical specs' -> http://www.magtecenergy.com/files/pdf/product_tundra1500.pdf

What is it about this field of overunity research that causes people to make claims up? Do you think others aren't going to call you on it?
It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness. - Chinese proverb

jimhitt

Quote from: wizardofmars on December 30, 2008, 01:54:25 PM
You were the one claiming MagTec had a shipping patented device, and it turns out they have one prototype with a patent pending. Will you retract your claim as incorrect?

To point out yet another misstatement by you, they have released the specifications on their website, under the link 'Technical specs' -> http://www.magtecenergy.com/files/pdf/product_tundra1500.pdf

What is it about this field of overunity research that causes people to make claims up? Do you think others aren't going to call you on it?

God,  Wizard you are such a stickler for detail.  I said that they made gas and diesel powered products for which they claim over 90 percent efficiency, and that gas and diesel engine average between 25% and 30 percent efficient, and that was an interesting trick. Their devices are scaled for commercial use and start at 500,000 btu's up to 1,500,000 btu's.  But you've have misquoted me.  I said that they had not released specifications on their electrical prototype to my knowledge.  I also said their patent was pending on those devices.  Undoubtedly the field of over unity caused you to make unsupportable claims such as these.  I said that I had made a magnet heater and that my results point to the accuracy of prior claims made by other researchers.  I wish I were younger. I would so love to have a flying monkey for a pet. 

You're likely one of the frequent contributors to ufo and antigravity sites.  I agree with you that these may be possible  Would they be over unity?  You can not find something new by first asserting that it does not exist.  I am not claiming that these devices produce more power than is used to operate them any more than a wind generator does.  Wind generators receive power from the wind.  Magnet heaters receive energy from magnets.  I am asserting that we are idiots when we think we have discovered all the ways of doing things.  I am asserting that magnets can do work.  I am asserting that we do not understand how things work. And, that we are at best scratching the surface of energy alternatives.  As you may know magnets like gravity are not well understood.  So your laws, corollaries, and rules are merely witch doctor's superstitions.

This thread however is not about magnet heaters.  Stick to the topic Wizard.  It's about the Perendev Motor and how it works.  Most everyone here asserted on the basis of opinion that it could not work.  I asserted on the basis of experimentation that it could and provided an alternate magnet configuration to the conventional opinion of how it is configured.  I have made a straight line rail and it does work.  I haven't tried it in a motor so I don't know.  But, it's at least based on empirical evidence and work not blather like you are spewing.

Your certainty based upon dead expert’s opinion has blinded you.  You can not prevent people from thinking even if you ask millions of critical questions, criticize their opinions, assert premises based upon no empirical observation only on conjecture and theory, accuse them of inaccuracies, and heap other forms of intellectual abuse upon them..  Everyone here sees your true colors.  Go crawl into a hole and realize that your days of unearned reward at others expense based upon spreading illusion are coming to an end.  Free energy exists, and soon I'm sure even your pal's the power elite won't be able to stop it.

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. 


BEP

Quote from: spinner on December 30, 2008, 10:55:43 AM
"Perendev motor" is a deception, a beginner's mirage, an illusion...

I will not provide the proof for my claim. :P
But You're very welcomed (if you feel like it) to provide a proof that it is really working as claimed....

Let's hope for the best. Good luck!

I appreciate the wish for good luck but it is misplaced. There are certain truths about magnet only motors. I'll not list them all as I have many times before.

There is one fact that has no solution, yet.

IF you get one that seems to work - acceleration and or running for a length of time beyond expected...

They always stop. Sometimes the magnets loose their magnetization. Sometimes not but the motor either never works again or it only works sometimes.

The majority of the time they are simply fakes.

"a deception, a beginner's mirage, an illusion" ? For most, yes. They are a great learning experience but pointless only for those burdened with failure, poor attitudes and no imagination.

The truth about magnetism (and all related) is surely not understood completely.

I will not provide the proof for my claim either. :P

We should all let the learning experience be lessons learned about the physics not childish pissing matches.

wizardofmars

Quote from: jimhitt on December 30, 2008, 04:13:38 PM
God,  Wizard you are such a stickler for detail.  .... I also said their patent was pending on those devices. 

It's attention to detail that separates the people dreaming of free energy to those that actually achieve something.

Your original post:

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For the record, regardless of actual results, MagTec Energy of North Dakota makes commercial diesel powered construction and offshore oil well magnetic heaters they claim are 95% efficient with motors that are at best 35 % efficient.  Neat trick, huh.  But don't let that sway you.  Never mind that the patent office verifies claims in patents before granting them.  Troy Reed and the patent office were unfortunate to not have had your expertise when the patent was granted otherwise they would have realized their calorimetric error.

It doesn't matter how you spin it - there are three errors in that statement. MagTec are not commercially producing heaters with 95% efficiency - it's a single prototype as you admitted. MagTec don't have a patent granted - it's an application. And the patent office doesn't verify claims in patents in that manner.

Anyway, I won't keep picking on the heater issue. You claim you've solved free energy from magnet motors so I look forward to the breaking news and acclaim which will come your way when you demo it on live TV. Since nothing could be more important than solving the energy crisis, and you are so sure you have a solution, I'm sure it'll be any day now.  ::)
It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness. - Chinese proverb