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Overunity Machines Forum



New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

Started by hartiberlin, November 17, 2010, 05:47:43 AM

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maw2432

@ ClaNZeR   

Very nice construction!!!   I can hardly wait to see the cam in action...

Bill

mscoffman

@all,

The question is what is the optimal configuration of magnets for one
single position of the v track to drive towards/against.

If one can make another synchronized drum and have each position be presented
with it's optimal counterpart, either attract or repel. And then skip the sticky
spot, I think one would have it.

For example *compromise* #1 is to find a single magnetic configuration for
one position to drive all magnetic trak configurations on one wheel. Most
likely with a drive force less than the optimal one. Compromise #2 puts the
cam in a position where it has to drive against that bars momentum mass and
the multiplies that by 2 to simultaneously drive the spring retraction energy,
as well. So I think that a dual drum would get rid of both compromises
simultaneously and therefore have a better chance of working.

:S:MarkSCoffman


Pirate88179

Mark:

Jesus posted a sketch of this idea a page or two back.  2 drums synced by a rubber drive belt or other means.  I have never seen that tried before anywhere, it just might work.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: Omnibus on November 28, 2010, 05:08:35 AM
Yiu should restrain from posting crap such as the above because in this way you're clogging important discussions.
crap? did you build it and see how it works oh great omni? you  don't have to be all pissy because your magnet motor attempt failed miserably. furthermore, if the Vgate could work, so could the Wtrack. if you knew squat about physics you would get that...

by the way, how is your version 2 coming? did you even get the rotor to turn yet? ::)

Quote from: Omnibus on November 25, 2010, 03:22:25 PM
As for Mylow, don't bet your life on his fishing line either. You may be in for a surprise. Way back I was betting my life insisting that there couldn't possibly be anything between Clinton and Monika Lewinsky and a friend of mine warned me that that was too much to bet on unless you've witnessed the whole thing from beginning to end.
you should restrain from posting crap such as the above because in this way you're clogging important discussions.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

Magluvin

It seems that the build up of speed of the wheel is key.   By looks of the track, I might think that 2 tracks in series having 2 SPOTS, the angle of the tracks would be more, causing more torque.
The reason there is pull on the wheel is the difference in how the magnets that are close to center of track and the ones that are closer to the outside. The wheel is being pulled in both directions, just stronger in one direction.

So by having 2 in series, the angle is changed more drastically, giving more torque, but now 2 sticky spots.

Now add 3 stators, with lifting cams (maybe mount the wheel axis vertical)  2 stators are always pulling while 1 gets lifted, adding to what is needed to lift rather than a single stator. 

Or maybe just more than 1 stator, without affecting each other   could be 4 , 5  or what ever.

Or another way may be to figure how to tension a spring, adding to the tension as the wheel is being torqued forward, Like charging a cap slowly and discharging it to lift the lever

One problem with the original in the vid, the stator is in attraction, and gravity pulling down on it, having more for the lever to accomplish. How about put that stator on the bottom and the wheel attracts it up to position and gravity helps the lever action to move the stator away, or even on the side where gravity has no effect.

Just thoughts

Mags