Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output

[Les Banki]

This is for those who are interested in the series cell electrolyzer technology:

Judging by a number of private emails I have received over the years (and also questions during my technical “lectures”), it seems that this subject is NOT properly understood by many experimenters.

Several have also asked:  Are you using Bob Boyce’s design?

The common misconception seems to be that Bob Boyce "invented" the series cell arrangement!
(I was making series cells many years before I even heard about Bob Boyce!
I was not even on Internet in those days......nor did I have a computer!)

I have pointed all this out several times in my writings!

If you want to understand the ‘physics’ behind the series cell design, please study the 1967 US Patent 3,310,483 by Dr. William A. Rhodes.

In that patent, he also explains WHY there is NO NEED to "seal" the cells!

All my series cell designs are based on 0.5mm plate thickness (SS 316 or 316L) and the optimum gap between the plates is 3mm.
[This optimum gap was found experimentally by several researchers (including Bob Boyce and myself)].

Note that the distance between groove CENTERS is 3.5mm

The slitting saw blade width we use to make the grooves is 0.6mm.
Obviously, the gap between the plates and the walls of the grooves is only 0.1mm!!
The grooves are 5mm deep. 
(the importance of the groove depth is explained in the above Patent)

I have attached 3 files to this post for the benefit of those who are interested in the technical details and explanations. 
Please study them carefully.
(I was forced to reduce the resolution of the scanned image of the old graph, due to file size restrictions on this Forum!

Also, I wish to make a comment on Oliver & Valentin’s achievement.

In my opinion, they succeeded mainly because they have done two things:
1.  Eliminated the ‘waste spark’ and ADJUSTED the ignition timing.
2.  Their ‘Anton’ cell(s) receive PULSED power from the generator’s output of 220V/50Hz.   (When that is full wave rectified, the frequency is 100Hz.)

In one of my earlier posts I made a suggestion to them (Oliver & Valentin) to replace the Variac and load resistor with a phase control device (I even attached my circuit diagram and its description) but I don’t think they are interested to try.
[That would have reduced their losses in the electrolyzer circuit and MORE power would be available for the load(s).]

I have published the original drawings for my 120 cell unit on another Forum more than 3 years ago.  No-one seemed interested to duplicate it.

So it seems to be a waste of time and effort to publish them (unless requested).
To the best of my knowledge, George (see previous posts) seems to be the only one!

Best regards,
Les Banki

[Mark69]

@Les

Can you design a smaller unit which will make enough gas to run a home heating furnace, in place of natural gas?  I would definitely be interested in this and I am sure many others would be as well.  I think this unit would be a lot easier and cheaper to produce, plus not having to worry about modifying one's car, which can be a whole other issue altogether.  I am figuring a 100-120k BTU natural gas heater would be the average size for most people?? 
Thanks,
Mark

[Doctor No]

Our polish HHO generator is ready. Altogether with DRJ200.11 OU CNF reactor will go on constant show, Bydgoszcz Polytechnics. It will be in special new room for ecological means of producing energy presented.  It is a big step for Mankind and small for my Party (or vice versa);-)     Heil! Heil! Heil!

[Les Banki]

‘Mark69’
Your post gives me the impression that you don’t fully understand this subject.

It is not just a question of size or capacity of the electrolyzers. 
(HUGE industrial types exist and have been used for a long time.)

I honestly don’t have time to write lengthy technical explanations on the differences between running engines and furnaces (as you propose) on Hydroxy but suffice to say that engines can be ‘looped’ while furnaces cannot. 
(not to my knowledge at this point in time)

Please visit the thread below and read the post by ‘bolt’.
I find his explanations VERY GOOD and I agree with most of his statements.

Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !
« Reply #322 on: December 26, 2010, 11:26:42 AM » 

‘Doctor No’
Perhaps you haven’t discovered that this a WATER FUEL TECHNOLOGY thread!??
I have not seen ANY technical contribution from you, only EMPTY WORDS and attempts to further your political agenda!
May I suggest that you open your own thread for that purpose?

Best regards to all,
Les Banki

[Doctor No]

Why please my Dear had You and no others called (and came)? To write anything can today anybody on each page. But what really is important in material world of physics is experiment. So You and others have to wait, till it will be officially accepted through Council of University (or already is? I don^t know;-]), and properly installed. This for students they could have learn in XXI century of what could already be to use 100y. ago. Something like history, but in new clothes;-)