The paradox of overunity

[Low-Q]

I've explained it more than once -- OU in its true sense (producing energy without it coming from a pre-existing energy reservoir) is possible and is proven definitively. As to the technical developments you're mentioning, they are non-trivial in engineering sense but they are foreseeable. Anything foreseeable is trivial and doesn't constitute a step ahead in our understanding of nature which is the subject of the scientific exploration.

This is true, but are you really sure there hasn't been a miscalculation somwhere, some missing elements in the "equation" which will eventually prove that OU isn't possible after all?

I also did read the HHO thread, where you offered a member a link via PM to some text you have written about OU (If I remember correctly). Could you please provide those links, either here or via PM to me? I promise not to discuss the content. I'm just curious - as always.

Vidar

[Omnibus]

more delusions of grandeur from omni... look omni, we all (well, most of us) know that there is no way you could have such knowledge, and for you to tell us what cannot exist is simply evidence of your megalomania. the name omnibus doesn't make you omniscient no matter how many times you click your heels and say 'there's no place like home'...

No, you don't know. You don't know the essence of what's being discussed let alone what my qualifications and knowledge are. You can't judge such things because you don't have the competence to do so. Yours is just blabber to pass the time.

[Omnibus]

translation: you have called out omnibus so he must refuse since he cannot provide what is asked.

Mind your own business and don't utter opinions about things you don't have a clue.

[Gwandau]

Hey you guys, this is becoming a really agitated discussion.

The smell of hurt egos are bouncing all around the walls in this topic.

As far as I am concerned, scientific discussions are far better off if one stays aloft of personal attachement.

There is no such thing as zero point energy. This is a deficiency in quantum mechanics which should be fixed as well as a number of other deficiencies in that otherwise beautifully crafted mathematical system.

Quantum mechanics is a somewhat misleading word, since this is still only a theory,
and although it is an appealing theory, it still struggles with a lot of contradictions
and paradoxes.

Repeatable empirical experiments on the other hand are undeniable proof.

The indisputable fact that Helium does not become solid at zero degrees Kelvin
does indeed prove the existence of Zero Point energy.

Additionally, physicists at Yale University have made the first definitive
measurements of "persistent current," a small but perpetual electric current that
flows naturally through tiny rings of metal wire even without an external power
source, adding to the proof of a universal underlying energy field.

Then we have the so called Casimir Effect, also empirically verified.

These examples are all known and accepted by contemporaray science,
and the theoretical physicists backing up the Quantum theory are having
severe problems incorporating these proven findings into their theory.

Remember: Zero Point energy is empirically proven, Quantum mechanics is but a theory.

Gwandau

[Omnibus]

Casimir effect is the straw they've been hanging onto ever since quantum mechanics came into being. Those trying to justify funding related to quantum mechanics are desperately seeking experimental confirmations and that's one of the few possible experiments to offer. Unfortunately, it is as problematic nowadays as it was at the beginning. We see here what problems even simple and ostensibly straightforward experiments are posing let alone such at the limits of our experimentation capabilities. Like I said, zero point energy is non-existent as a real phenomenon, no matter how certain groups are trying to puch it.