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Joule Ringer!

Started by lasersaber, December 29, 2010, 02:19:43 PM

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poynt99

Quote from: Mk1 on January 24, 2011, 04:21:30 PM
@itseung888

Ok now it seems you managed to get others to see the potential of the Joule thief

Good work ! But now we need to address the real issue here .

You showed poor judgment in changing the name of the JT to your fleet shit , this doesn't give you the right to steel work from others and get the credit for it .

I personally think you did a good job , because no one would have done what you have done , lets clarify that you did not invent the fleet because it was already there and called the Joule thief , thousands of people put there efforts together for a common goal , and that goal was no to provide you with retirement money , we are in this mess because of people taking advantage of others , prove to use you are not one of those , stop calling the JT something else then a JOULE THIEF .

I must say i feel cheated by the fact that you try to steel the JT from the people that  conceived it , i personally put 2 years of my time in this project , and that was a gift to the world not to you , you are part of the world and deserve access to it but not to take it as your own , you may think you did great by proving what most of us know , the only problem in doing that is that you removed our anonymity , now we will be a target , more work for everyone fighting all the trolls , our relative peace in conducting our experiment may be a thing of the past .

Now you know why others did not pursue the cop verification , but since you are simple man you did not catch that , i tried to tell you !

All and all , thank for helping the JT cause .

With all due respect Mk1, there is nothing new, novel, or unique about LT's (or whomever) version of the JT. The same goes for the JT itself. The blocking oscillator (BO) was "invented" before you were probably even born, so reality is that no one of recent times has any claim to the concept actually. Sure, there have been 100's of variations (LT's) and improvements over the years, but fundamentally the circuit is the same.

You spent two years tweaking, learning, and improving on the basic JT and that's great. No one is ever going to be able to take that away from you. However, how can anyone lay claim to what is and always has been fundamentally a BO, designed many many years ago?

What precisely did Lawrence 'steal'? The addition of a secondary? That's actually quite basic for all that know transformer theory. The truth is, the device could be made more efficient without that secondary, and the output taken from the 'primary'. One only need dig into some modern buck/boost converter designs in order to learn about the best circuit configurations.

ION has been designing and working with BO circuits for about 50 years, and he has indicated that LT's design exhibits an efficiency of only about 75% or so, maximum. There are more advanced techniques (and better components) which were developed over the last 10 to 20 years that can allow for efficiencies as high as 95%.

.99
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Mk1

Quote from: poynt99 on January 24, 2011, 08:15:34 PM
With all due respect Mk1, there is nothing new, novel, or unique about LT's (or whomever) version of the JT. The same goes for the JT itself. The blocking oscillator (BO) was "invented" before you were probably even born, so reality is that no one of recent times has any claim to the concept actually. Sure, there have been 100's of variations (LT's) and improvements over the years, but fundamentally the circuit is the same.

You spent two years tweaking, learning, and improving on the basic JT and that's great. No one is ever going to be able to take that away from you. However, how can anyone lay claim to what is and always has been fundamentally a BO, designed many many years ago?

What precisely did Lawrence 'steal'? The addition of a secondary? That's actually quite basic for all that know transformer theory. The truth is, the device could be made more efficient without that secondary, and the output taken from the 'primary'. One only need dig into some modern buck/boost converter designs in order to learn about the best circuit configurations.

ION has been designing and working with BO circuits for about 50 years, and he has indicated that LT's design exhibits an efficiency of only about 75% or so, maximum. There are more advanced techniques (and better components) which were developed over the last 10 to 20 years that can allow for efficiencies as high as 95%.

.99

Sorry , but you are exactly what i was talking about ...

Yes i did not invent it nor did you or Lawrence . My point is a spent many hours helping people and teaching them , many things . First even if really basic the addition of a secondary was never done on a JT circuit until i showed and promoted it , go read the tread yes the long one , then be judge ...  i spent my time so everyone would benefit , but no one in particular not even me.

But this tread is not related to lawrence in anyway except that he posted here .

So i will refrain form making anymore comment  , until a proper tread is created ,  since this tread is on the JR form LaserSaber.

It will not be allowed to go out of hand .

flathunter

Lucky me!

I found a 58000 microfarad cap at the radio market - it'll keep my xenon running for 10 mins with no battery (of course, not full brightness for ten mins). The flyback is very noisy when it hits resonance - like lasersaber, i find the pitch and tempo of the ringing in the flyback EXTREMELY useful for getting resonance. I use a radio on the floor and an AV plug to check if it has reached that point. When im charging with the exciter, my hand approaches the exciter tower and the flyback screams and gets to resonance also.

Heres my setup - I'll post a video soon.

flathunter

Sorry for the unbelievably large pic - im terrible with computers.

Heres the vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPYUtBJOPdY

conradelektro

@flathunter

Interesting use of an AV-plug!

May be one should try to limit the Voltage in your AV-plug with a Zener-Diode as indicated in the drawing below? As long as the big capacitor stays charged well enough to drive the fly back, the voltage would stay at e.g. 13 Volt (with a 13 V Zener Diode).

I guess, it is the neon at the base of the transistor that discharges excess Voltage? Once Voltage is stabilized with the Zener diode, one could use a resistor there.

Greetings, Conrad