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Joule Ringer!

Started by lasersaber, December 29, 2010, 02:19:43 PM

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conradelektro

Double triggering of transistor TIP31C solved, more efficient

I connected the collector of the MPSA06 to 12V with a 500 Ohm resistor. This resolved the double triggering and made the the circuit a bit more efficient. May be it is wishful thinking, but the CFL looks now as bright with 0.3 Watt as it was before with 0.6 Watt. (Increasing Wattage by using a R1 below 100K just heats up the TIP31C and does not bring a spectacular brightness.)

My playing with this circuit showed, that the trigger pulse is very important and should have a nice shape to switch the circuit cleanly. Using the MPSA06 as an amplifier for the trigger pulse helped, because the trigger pulse from my little fly back transformer is rather week.

It would be nice to have a short and strong trigger pulse (may be 5 Volt) with about 1 KHz. But higher frequency would not hurt if the pulses are shorter (but still strong).

I promise, this is the last post about this circuit, it has outlived itself. I have to go on with a different fly back transformer or a good tower coil.

Greetings, Conrad

Mk1

@all

I watched a video made by John Bedini , please watch it too !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8vnHVV25tU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Ok the important part is that a iron coil wound in the same way as a copper coil will exhibit opposite polarity .

If both coil setup are the same , the North and South of the magnet will be at the opposite end .

Now why is this important , lets say you make a bifillar copper and iron and pulse the copper coil the emf induced in the second coil usually is in the opposite direction but not with iron , the induced field will be going in the same direction as the current , this would suggest that using a bifillar copper coil would need to be either both coil wound in opposite direction or swapping polarity on on coil .


Now why would i write all that , well this is a highway system each wire there own respective side , what happen you use the pair as a secondary ?

But i see it more as a blood system veins and arteries are the same each have there own direction , emptying the cap and filling it back up at the same time .

Also the iron/copper pair theoretically should cancel each other , but the NS coil works , there is something there we can not see ,but it still is there !

That would really explain Leedskalnin suction effect , like to spring stuck together ...

Mark

hartiberlin

@conrad,
well done.
Looking forward to see your new flyback coil experiments.

@MK1
well iron coils have totally different BackEmf properties, than copper coils.

P.S: I like the Pyrite-Magnesium battery of Bedini.

I played recently also with Pyrite, but did not try it with
Magnesium, so great what John found out how to
get usable power out of this rock battery.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

ltseung888

From the Joule Ringer Thread in Overunity.com (Reply 182)

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10179.msg272131#msg272131

Quote from: Mk1 on January 24, 2011, 04:21:30 PM
@itseung888

Ok now it seems you managed to get others to see the potential of the Joule thief

Good work ! But now we need to address the real issue here .

You showed poor judgment in changing the name of the JT to your fleet shit , this doesn't give you the right to steal work from others and get the credit for it .

I personally think you did a good job , because no one would have done what you have done , lets clarify that you did not invent the fleet because it was already there and called the Joule thief , thousands of people put there efforts together for a common goal , and that goal was not to provide you with retirement money , we are in this mess because of people taking advantage of others , to prove you are not one of those , stop calling the JT something else then a JOULE THIEF .

I must say i feel cheated by the fact that you try to steal the JT from the people that  conceived it , i personally put 2 years of my time in this project , and that was a gift to the world not to you , you are part of the world and deserve access to it but not to take it as your own , you may think you did great by proving what most of us know , the only problem in doing that is that you removed our anonymity , now we will be a target , more work for everyone fighting all the trolls , our relative peace in conducting our experiment may be a thing of the past .

Now you know why others did not pursue the cop verification , but since you are simple man you did not catch that , i tried to tell you !

All and all , thank for helping the JT cause .

Dear Mk1,

You gave a reason for the Joule Thief and Joule Ringer people not pursing the COP verification.  I accept that.

However, I hold a totally different view.  I believe that we should conclusively demonstrate that COP can be greater than 1 to benefit the World.  We should invite the established academic establishment (e.g. PhysicsProf) to verify and confirm that.  The resulting publicity will provide much more support and funding to this kind of research.

Poynt99 is probably the only one in the OUR forum with two good oscilloscopes at his disposal.  I thought that I was deprived when I had two oscilloscopes in my bedroom in Hong Kong.  The working space was less than 50 square feet.  Now I realized that it was a luxury compared with the researchers in USA.  Many of the outspoken forum members do not even have one oscilloscope and they claim to have years of experience! 

If you traced the history of FLEET (from the Pulsed DC transformer with Embedded Magnets Thread) in the overunity.com forum, you will find that the term was coined even before I used the Joule Thief as the oscillating power source.  The original oscillating power source was the cheap signal generator from China!

You can use a different term such as LT-JT instead of FLEET.  The LT-JT is different from the standard JT with a secondary because the COP must be tuned to be greater than 1 to be qualified as FLEET.  As PhysicsProf have confirmed â€" not every JT with a secondary can have COP greater than 1.  He lowered the input power and the COP dropped to below 1. 

Sorry that I blew away your collective cover and anonymity.  Ask Stefan to watch out for the trolls and kick them out.  I regret that I did not do that.  Now I enjoy my moderator privilege at my OUR bench.

Lawrence Tseung
Director
Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation Limited
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

Mk1

@Lt

I will say this , i hope you understand this .

The problem is not the people its the system , showing them is useless .

Plus if you ever get big company involved it will only mean a making money opportunity for them , this can't solve anything .

It need to be so simple and easy to do that everyone can make there own from scrap and trash .

Give the power to the people to make it them self .

I know you agree with all the previous , but don't get too far of your self .

Yes you seem to have some good JT , but i don't think they are that good i have seen better really . And ingenious ways of using it .

I do admire your persistence , even if i don't agree with all you say and do .

But on the most part  :D , you are a good Human .


Mark