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Overunity Machines Forum



AMAZING NEW VIDEO BY THANE HEINS

Started by bobo36us2, January 03, 2011, 04:13:03 PM

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bolt

There is nothing special about this whatsoever.  A standard off the shelf transformer can do the same and yes creating PF 0 condition is the same as infinite VSWR and scaler operation. "WE" those of us in the know have been talking about this for YEARS on here but no one pays attention.  Using a 3 phase motor into PF 0 condition can light a THOUSAND WATT bulb and consume only a couple of watts leakage from PF 0 so forget 18 watts its kids stuff.

Any measurement meter will show ZERO power consumption and it is correct cos there isn't any power when PF is 0. Problem is Thane serving this on a Xmas Platter but we knew this for long time.

TinselKoala

bobo, think for a moment. Zero Watts input, electrically.... means NO POWER INPUT. Therefore.... why does the device need to be hooked up to a functioning input power supply then????

Since it manifestly won't run without being hooked up to an input power source, the "zero Watts" measurement of input power is OBVIOUSLY incorrect. Whether it's less than the measured output or greater is an important issue.... but with "measurements" and reasoning like these, how will you or anyone else ever be able to tell?

Omnibus


Omnibus

Quote from: TinselKoala on January 03, 2011, 07:36:52 PM
bobo, think for a moment. Zero Watts input, electrically.... means NO POWER INPUT. Therefore.... why does the device need to be hooked up to a functioning input power supply then????

Since it manifestly won't run without being hooked up to an input power source, the "zero Watts" measurement of input power is OBVIOUSLY incorrect. Whether it's less than the measured output or greater is an important issue.... but with "measurements" and reasoning like these, how will you or anyone else ever be able to tell?

Zero watts input indeed means no power input but it does not al all mean zero current input. As I've shown, there may be conditions whereby the power input is zero but there's still current flowing which means non-zero power output. Therefore, the above "obviously" is out of place.

bolt

You still need a source potential to create a resonance condition. However if there is no power consumed (there is always a tiny bit in reality) then the source just becomes an energizer. For example you could run the transformer on a small 100 watt inverter connected to a 12v gel battery and measure the current. This always sorts this measurement arguing as its DC.

BUT the transformer is still capable of delivering real watts to a load NOT seen back at the battery under these conditions. TUNING is hellish critical!

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. (1990's)  Second, it is violently opposed. (2000-2010)  Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. (2011...:)