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[DreamThinkBuild]

Hi Laurent,

It looks to be diametric from his drawings. In Fig13 he shows the field lines as going through the magnet and perpendicular to the axis of rotation. In Fig28 he shows both Nord(North), Sud(South) on edges of magnet.

I'm not sure what the magnet material is. .7Tesla = 7000 Gauss. A 3" diametric ring magnet is hard to find, so we might have to play with the values for a smaller magnet.

I don't think my e-mail went through but I tried to contact Prof Turtur (c-w.turtur@ostfalia.de)(<- Is this correct?) to see if it was possible to calculate a new setup with a commercially available magnet. Here is a 1" ~7000 Gauss diametric magnet: http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RX024DIA

I think Neptune's idea of using a small rubber wheel to spin the magnet would be great. All you need are small indents inside the coils tube to hold the shaft for the magnet. The magnet is 3.07"(7.8cm) in diameter so it sticks above 0.2"(1/2cm) the coil which is 2.67"(6.8cm) high.

The hardest part is getting the magnet to spin freely in the middle of the coil. It sounds simple but the winds would have to be pulled around the shaft but far enough that they don't cause friction, get pulled in or distort the inductance. Anybody have other ideas on designing the coil?

[penno64]

Hi all,

is this not on the same lines as -

http://www.youtube.com/user/64298#p/u/0/8_iyr_ng1Us

Penno

[LightRider]

Hi Lightrider

thanks for this post

I read the entire paper from C.Turtur very interesting stuff and i made my mind on a preplication

So i am estonished because the coil should be very thin (0.01 meter =1 cm thickness ) and if the copper wire is 0.001 meter =1 mm diameter (and not square mm) i can only wind 10 turns per layer , that is to say for 1600 turns we need 160 layers.
So if the center body of the coil is 9 cm diameter, the outer diameter of the coil would be   9 cm + 16 cm + 16 cm = 41 cm diameter ?
So it is a very large and flat coil .
Or could it be a mistake in the code script ? Or do i miss something ?

what do you think?

good luck at all

laurent

Hi Laurent,

First, the paper say "...copper wire from which the coil is made has a cross section area of 1.0 mm^2..." (square mm) THIS is in the text.
But in the code source say "0.0010 m"

(...Anyway in one case it give 1.0mm Dia. and the other give 1.13mm Dia.)

160 layers seem to be a good calculation.
41 cm seem to be good too... (magnet is 0.078mm Dia. so the coil can't be much smaller that 0.09mm)

"So it is a very large and flat coil" => agree

It seem to be the difference between a "Simulated reality" and "The reality".
It is unclear whether this physical configuration has a major impact on a real experience.

Thanks for taking the time to raise this information, which doesn't jump to the eye at first glance.

LightRider

[LightRider]

Hi DTB

In the paper of C.Turtur it is not clear if the disc magnet is diametricaly magnetised or normal (a north and a south face)
I agree with you it should be diametric but are you sure of that ?
And do you know what quality of magnet it is . In the code it is written 0.7 tesla for a diameter of 7.8 cm and a 1 cm thickness , so is it neodym or other material ?

Thanks

Laurent

Magnetic properties: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare-earth_magnet

Nd2Fe14B (sintered)    1.0â€"1.4 Br (T)
Nd2Fe14B (bonded)    0.6â€"0.7 Br (T)
SmCo5 (sintered)    0.8â€"1.1 Br (T)
Sm(Co,Fe,Cu,Zr)7 (sintered)    0.9â€"1.15  Br (T)
Alnico (sintered)    0.6â€"1.4 Br (T)   
Sr-ferrite (sintered)    0.2â€"0.4 Br (T)

LightRider

[neptune]

@DreamThinkBuild . I think you missed my shaft/bearing idea .Imagine a short shaft that only protrudes 1cm each side of the magnet . Bearings are fitted to the shaft ends , and are supported by vertical members going down to a base board .The coil is then fitted over the above assembly and supported to the correct height on spacers to the baseboard. thus the total shaft length of the shaft is shorter than the inside diameter of the hole in the center of the coil . That was the idea of the rubber wheel , as access to the shaft ends would now not be possible . Great idea to get the Prof to re design it around a commercial magnet , even if this gives a reduced performance .