Mars color

[Koen1]

There is a audio file that has the information about pre-Mare on it. As I have said this is a journal, I was fooled by information and previous knowledge several times. It took me a while to get to the truth. I took you on the journey with me, you know every misstep I took. I did what no one else would do, I applied myself to the images, I tested the information. I came up with a final result. All these other sites are just conjecturing.

What do you call what you have been doing? Empirical evidence? You're talking about seeing guys with yellow hard hats, forklifts, stripmines, engines, soda bottles, skeletons, etcetera etcetera and I'd like to believe you but I do not see any of these things in the pictures you present as proof. I have read your entire chemtrail section and looked at all your pictures, I have even downloaded the full size ones and looked at those spots in the pics myself, altering contrast and all kinds of things,
and I do not see those things. I keep seeing blurs. There's a few very curious blurs that must be airbrush as they don't look like normal camera artifacts, and the
picture quality is astoundingly bad for such an important space mission, but other than that I cannot see the things you claim to see.

This still needs cracked has anyone spent the time to ask a hacker on the net? That's why they hid this stuff so long, nobody is willing to put 3 lousy minutes of effort out. No effort, no return. I even gave the link!

Why don't you do it yourself? If you can give the link you can also send the email...

And please, if you do have any clearer images of what you claim to be a stripmine, soda cans or bottles, men, forklifts,
whatever, then please post links here, because I really want to see something like that...

[utilitarian]

This whole thing is about money. They are mining Mars. This is a journal of my quest for the truth. They have been lying to me from the day I was born. The rich have been skimming the easiest to get and the highest concentration ores.

Dude. . . . dude.  Do you have any clue at all about the costs of space travel?  Mars could be made of solid gold, and it still would not be worth it.

Edit: I just went back to read some of your earlier posts.  Nevermind, you are just way out there.  You are in your own reality.

[Koen1]

Dude. . . . dude.  Do you have any clue at all about the costs of space travel?  Mars could be made of solid gold, and it still would not be worth it.

Well that depends doesn't it... You're right that space travel costs a lot of money, but as you may know the dollar is not backed
by gold anymore so they've managed to make people do a lot of work for very little actual gold value, and if there's enough
water on Mars to electrolyse rocket fuel setting up and running a Mars mining base would not necessarily have to be
extremely expensive...
Besides, do you have any idea what an ICBM costs to build, maintain, and dismantle? They had and still have
thousands of those. And they don't even bring back any gold or anything.

Also, the case for underground bases is quite convincing, and if they really do have nuclear powered tunnel
boring machines like Phil Sneider said, it would only take one of those and they could build entire underground
cities on Mars...
And if you've got a base, it might be a good idea to build some mining, refining, and production infrastructure
for whatever you may need, be it gold (for what?), water, salt, uranium, whatever.

And those pictures of what look like water and trees and other bushes on Mas look pretty convincing I think...

So yeah, going to Mars only to mine gold seems a bit implausible, but going to Mars as alternative 3 (second
chance for mankind if things go wrong here) and while you're at it doing some mining there does not sound
as farfetched. I think.

[Freezer]

I don't understand what you mean by the term "crack" the image..NASA also does not use airbrushing anymore as it's all done digitally now.  I have a great computer system to do image analysis, and am happy to enhance images for you, but I need to know what you are exactly referring to and where it is.  A lot of what I've seen so far looks just like rock formations.  I could see elvis if I stared at it long enough.

It took me a while to get to the truth, that's something the rest of the world didn't do so give me a break for a few mistakes.

Actually there are many people out there who spend endless hours sifting through NASA's scraps.  Most of it is pointless since they sanitize the material before releasing it.  Many people know NASA is lying and they've been caught manipulating images time and time again on countless ats threads.

We built the cities there. There are no aliens.

Sorry but I have to strongly object to this statement..Aliens have been around far before us, and will be here long after we've exhausted.  The cities were there long ago, and was part of an earlier civilization.  I believe Mars at one time was the earth of our solar system, and so Venus will fall into earths position.  The planets are slowly moving away from the sun, which all the planets have originated.  This isn't my theory, but I believe it too be true.  We didn't build those cities, but I believe we've had manned missions to Mars, although we used reversed engineered alien hardware (anti-gravity propulsion). Basically a dumbed down generic version of the real thing.  As we know the military has a bigger space program than NASA, and also has better hardware.

If you want the real information on aliens, read this guys free online book.  Beware, it might blow your mind..  Skeptics need not bother..
http://youfo.blogspot.com/

[shruggedatlas]

Here is my general philosophy on this sort of thing.  Massive conspiracies are impossible.   There are just too many people involved.  Moreover, in something as risky as this, there is not even the guarantee of success, but what is guaranteed is something will leak.

Also, and this is something that is applicable to the faked moon landing and other space conspiracies.  What all of you have to realize is that neither NASA nor the U.S. military build these space craft.  Do you know who does?  Private companies.  (NASA itself does not build anything.)  And there is a collaboration process among different contractors and so there are alot of parties involved.  Some of these companies coincidentally are clients of mine because I live near NASA.  I know some of these folks and they are not evil conspirators.

Let me lay out how this process works.  NASA comes to the contractors and says - OK build me a device that does this. And once a contractor accepts the job and wins a bid, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of people involved.  We are talking about people from the officers of the company down to the low level engineers, their wives, and so on.  There are some confidentiality considerations internally, but that has to do with technology.  Trust me, if there was a massive conspiracy by private companies to exploit Mars at government expense, that would get flushed out real quick.  Cargo spaceships capable of carrying mining equipment (and hey, the mining equipment has to be specially designed to withstand Martian environment) - all this stuff cannot be built in secret without a single word of its existence being leaked.  There are too many lightly-paid engineering jobs for this to happen.  The desire to cash in for a few million and write a book would be too great.  (Scott McClellan wrote a book, and he did not even have anything that juicy to say.)

Off topic, but this goes to the moon landing theories too.  If a contractor is approached and tasked with designing a rocketship that will make it to the moon, then that contractor will make a rocketship capable of going to the moon.  And if it can go to the moon, then we are going, we are not going to fake it.  Now, if, on the other hand, NASA says, well, just make a rocketship that looks like it can go to the moon, but it does not really have to make it there, then you have a massive problem with keeping this stuff contained.  I mean, there are all these engineers working for this company, and now you have to tell them all to fake it.  And you cannot keep it from them, because everyone knows you got a contract to build this thing, and you can't just put like 20 people on it, because everyone knows it's a huge project.

I may be dismissed as part of the conspiracy here, but I just wanted to shed some light, based on personal experience, on how these projects really go, and why a conspiracy would be so hard to pull off.