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Overunity Machines Forum



Easy Gravity wheel

Started by guruji, February 18, 2011, 08:15:37 AM

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guruji

Hi Quantum you're very convinced that gravity wheels don't work. Everything is possible in life :)

JEJEHO

Hi Quantam,

Gravity wheels may work or may not. If some one start to go in a wrong path, if we know that it is a wrong path it is our duty to inform them that it is a wrong path. Accept or not acceept is there decission.

I belive gravity wheels are possible. From physics i have some valid derived theories that shows this is possible. But with that we cannot say this is possible. a working model is the solution. I am also trying on that.

May be i can get it or maynot. so if you have a belief that gravity wheels will work , keep the momentum and go on. sure you will get a solution oneday.

Nixon

quantumtangles

I said gravity wheels "don't work" in the sense that no working gravity wheel exists (that can be replicated independently) and so far no such device has been shown to work. That appears to be the state of play concerning experiments and working models (to the best of my knowledge).

Turning to the theory behind gravity wheels, resourceful and wonderful people such as many on this specific forum try to build these devices, and earn admiration from the rest of us for their efforts.

But my theoretical objection to gravity wheels is this. When considering a system, one must consider all of the forces and torques acting on each part of the system. Even if the forces (including rotational forces or torques due to gravity acting on one part of the system) are unbalanced on one side of it, other forces also exert torques on balls or other objects attached to the gravity wheel. Tension in the chains or ropes joining the balls together have to be taken into account as well.

When all these forces are considered, it is the case that the net torque in any part of the system is zero, despite a powerful counter-intuitive sense that this cannot be so.

When you add to this the fact that the net forces and net torques on surrounding objects like balls and pulleys are also zero, this has the effect that the wheel can never move by itself.

I remain open to persuasion (unlike many so called scientists who get angry when topics they consider closed are raised) but this is my current understanding.

Good luck with the gravity wheels. I really hope you prove me wrong :)


Dr

Quantumangles: Hey at least your mind is still open somewhat, I have to give you 4 stars for that! Have you studied Bessler at all?

quantumtangles

@ Dr

Sorry for the delay responding. I moved house. Just had my phone connected up again.

In answer to your question...no. I have not studied Bessler.

But I will most certainly check out his work.

Thanks for the reference to Bessler. I am sure it will be interesting.

;D