Easy Gravity wheel

[Low-Q]

Gravity wheels does not work for one simple reason: The weights is ALLWAYS present within a fixed difference in altitude.
The weights alone are for sure overbalancing, but not the energy. That means there is a factor which adds up in zero, inwhich the weights must be multiplied with in order to get the energy. You can guess what factor that would be.

Vidar

[guruji]

Gravity wheels does not work for one simple reason: The weights is ALLWAYS present within a fixed difference in altitude.
The weights alone are for sure overbalancing, but not the energy. That means there is a factor which adds up in zero, inwhich the weights must be multiplied with in order to get the energy. You can guess what factor that would be.

Vidar

If there are two weights and one is overbalanced than gravity wheel works. The puzzle is how can one put that overbalanced weight in a way that it move by gravity for perpetium.

[Low-Q]

If there are two weights and one is overbalanced than gravity wheel works.

No. The problem is not how to overbalance, but how to achieve extra potential energy from a system which never change its potential energy level. A weight put on a wheel, or just use an elevator, or your hand, to move up and down, is the same thing as long the weight (regardless of its shape and alignment) is returned to its origin for each cycle. You can walk ten meters, then walk ten meters back. How far is the net sum of distance you walked? It's zero. No change. However, you have SPENT much energy to fight friction while moving your mass 20 meters.

In a gravity field, there is one thing that matters; up and down. What the wheel does to a weight sideways, or in what pattern the weight is traveling before it is returned to the same spot, does not change anything. Gravity wheels are conservative as the gravity itself. The factors in total is not overbalancing - only the weights. So therfor no work can be carried out.

The puzzle is how can one put that overbalanced weight in a way that it move by gravity for perpetium.

The gravity can only do work if the field change. That means Earth has to gain its weight, then loose it, then gain weight again. Or, the weight on the wheel itself must become heavier on one side of the wheel, and lighter on the other side. This will never happen, so we do have to look at alternatives to gravity powered wheels. Because gravity, and mass is conservative - doesn't change. No change means no potential difference which possibly could be converted into useful energy. Potential energy IS that change we need, but there is no change in gravity or mass to harvest energy from.

This is very, very simple, but most people just don't get it.

However, there is one thing that might work. If gravity can be used together with the Earth momentum as it spins around its own axis, you might achieve something interesting. But that does not mean energy from nothing, but energy from the Earth incredible kinetic energy - assisted by gravity/heavy objects.

Vidar

[Dr]

@ Vidar: If you are 100% sure gravity wheels will not work, you should be able to prove this with Math, I am still waiting for your secrete formula, that will prove your point!

[Pirate88179]

Not allowing for friction:

One plus minus one equals zero.